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Jason Loewenstein thinks vinyl enthusiasts are stupid

To most fans of indie music, Sebadoh are not only rock gods, but they are torch carrying saviors of the genre. With that notion, comes a near automatic attribution that the band represents all things indie, such as small venue shows, a lack of music videos, and of course, aging formats such as vinyl and cassettes.

Sebadoh’s co-frontman however made a surprising status update on Facebook the other day when he published a picture of people burning Beatles records circa 1966, with the statement, “I am thinking of starting a group “Musicians against vinyl” Romanticizing medieval formats = jackass! I am sure it will be a very small group.”

The post got immediate responses from his large pool of Facebook friends. The first comment is probably the best — “vinyl blows & beatles suck!!!”, but the thread eventually opened up into a simple, yet interesting debate over the validity of vinyl and its resurgence over the past six years or so.

While several people tried to deter Loewenstein’s stand over the course of the post, he remained unmoving on his position, every once in a while chiming in with, ” I am right, thats all. /thread” and “Fact.” Loewenstein shut down another commenter, who tried to explain that analogue is the only format that carries real frequencies, with a simple, “Wrong again.” He also poked fun at bands that only release their material on vinyl, saying, “I am going to start a website and I want everyone to see it, but it will not be available on line, just printed / mailed. Good idea or no?”

Loewenstein’s stance is an interesting one in that most indie rockers like himself adore vinyl and hold it up as the dominant format. Steve Albini for instance hated digital formats and had titled one Big Black compilation CD, “The Rich Man’s Eight Track Tape,” as a jab at the convenience of digital over the quality of analogue.

Loewenstein later clarified his statement saying, “Ok guys… I like vinyl, but as a musician I wouldnt want to put something out ONLY on vinyl (limits distribution) and I think that with quality equipment, 24 bit (& higher) digital recordings are technologically superior. That DOES NOT have ANYTHING to do with “clean or dirty recordings” I like dirty digital!” The thread continued but he pretty much signed off after that.

He is right actually. A gritty or “dirty” sound can be accomplished through digital, it’s just matter of knowing how to use your equipment. For instance, the Wu-Tang Clan are one of the most street-sounding hip-hop groups around, their records often having hard, crackled beats and rough vocals, yet they have been pioneers in digital recording since “36 Chambers.”

As far as I know, all of Sebadoh’s work has been recorded on analogue but the last time they put out a record was “The Sebadoh,” and that was in 1999. When I spoke to Jason Loewestein after a Sebadoh show last year, he hinted at the possibility of recording new material with Lou Barlow and Bob D’Amico. Whether or not they can put the “dirty digital” sound to the test, we’ll have to wait and see.

  1. February 20, 2012 at 5:41 pm, Lily Ellender Parmenter said:

    *controversial*

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  2. February 20, 2012 at 5:43 pm, Jason Loewenstein said:

    Thank you for not misquoting me or misrepresenting. Best, J

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    • February 20, 2012 at 5:54 pm, Jamie Cohen said:

      Lol.

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    • February 20, 2012 at 5:55 pm, Kimberly Steward Holmes said:

      burn

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    • February 20, 2012 at 5:55 pm, Kimberly Steward Holmes said:

      lol

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    • February 20, 2012 at 5:56 pm, Tom Caw said:

      when did you become a "co-fontman," jake? and which font are you? (other than comic sans)

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    • February 20, 2012 at 6:04 pm, Tom Caw said:

      While Avenir is practicing the clarinet, I’m shredding “Reign In Blood” on my double-necked Stratocaster. http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/im-comic-sans-asshole

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    • February 20, 2012 at 6:32 pm, Douglas Miller said:

      But 78's are ok right?

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    • February 20, 2012 at 7:29 pm, Kris Sway said:

      When I goof off on facebook no one writes an article about me – this is bullshit!!

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    • February 20, 2012 at 7:33 pm, Aiden Berglund said:

      Wow, they took that pretty seriously.

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    • February 20, 2012 at 7:35 pm, Leilani Swafford said:

      I had no idea you were the "co-fontman" of the band! haha.. i love the photo they chose of you, too!

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    • February 20, 2012 at 8:08 pm, Rick Marin said:

      It must be difficult, only having partial say in the fonts that your band uses on their artwork.

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  3. February 20, 2012 at 5:54 pm, Dave Stacey said:

    lol

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  4. February 20, 2012 at 6:04 pm, Bill Schultz said:

    I like vinyl that comes with a code for the digital version. If you purchase digital only, you don't have anything tangible or collectable and it won't appreciate in value. When's the last time someone offered to buy used MP3s off of you?

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  5. February 20, 2012 at 6:43 pm, Justin Fields said:

    se
    BAD
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  6. February 20, 2012 at 7:11 pm, Christopher Lee Burkhead said:

    I was listening to a vintage recording of a live performance of Louis Armstrong on vinyl, and I… really, legitimately, with my eyes shut, felt like I was there. The speakers were factory-spec, built into a $50 turntables chasis…. That has never happened before. Show me a digital recording that can accomplish that?

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  7. February 22, 2012 at 3:47 pm, Mike Bliss said:

    on a decent system, vinyl sounds significantly better than CD. A year or so ago, I realised my CDs were sounding as good as my record deck (or rather that my record deck was sounding worse than my CDs). Now I've auditioned and bought a new cartridge, there is again no comparison…

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