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10 reasons Morrissey actually does not suck

A few days ago, my colleague Ned Hepburn wrote a piece called “10 Reasons Morrissey Sucks” for Death and Taxes. In the piece, he accuses the former Smiths singer of being awful based on his unpopular opinions, his unorthodox choices, his haircut and many other aspects of the man’s M.O., many of which I personally feel are either incidents hastily taken out-of-context, opinions I personally don’t share, or in some cases flat out incorrect.

While that post took the opportunity to take some heated digs against the singer, I’m taking this opportunity to address each dig one by one (albiet not in the same order) and offer a rebuttal as to why Morrissey does not actually suck.

What I feel must be addressed first is one of the largest errors in the original post which is over the demise of The Smiths. Contrary to common assumption, Morrissey did not break up The Smiths. Several managerial problems were mounting on the band in the spring of 1987 which brought great strain on the group, but their ultimate end came about when Johnny Marr quit the group that summer.

There is a famous quote published in a 1992 issue of “Record Collector” where Marr disdainfully said “I didn’t form a group to perform Cilla Black songs.” The Smiths however were not in the habit of covering Cilla Black songs and Marr was actually a fan of several ‘60s pop acts similar to Black and Twinkle (he and Morrissey actually jointly resurrected the career of Black contemporary Sandie Shaw in the ‘80s when they played on her cover of “Hand in Glove”). This instance however would become the catalyst for the band’s ultimate breakup. As Marr puts it in the Simon Goddard book “The Smiths: The Songs That Saved Your Life,” “I’m a great believer in the idea that when something has to finish, then events have a way of conspiring to make it happen…That’s the way I look at the end of The Smiths.”

In regards to Morrissey apparently not having released a good solo album since “Bona Drag”… firstly, “Bona Drag” isn’t actually an album, it’s a singles compilation (cue track 1 on Ryan Adams’ “Heartbreaker” for a quick run through of this frequent confusion). Second, and more importantly, Morrissey has cut many good records since 1990 and at least three of them are worthy rivals to any Smiths LP.

Accusations of being childish potentially could be pegged onto Morrissey for numerous outlandish comments he’s made over his long career—that’s for sure, but denouncing the need for men to be macho as pointed out in the original article is hardly a worthy example of it, and is in fact a word of great advice for young men who feel ashamed for not living up to the expectations set out by the stereotypes imposed on them by society. “I think the expectation that men be stoic and strong is so enormous that finally they decide that this is the attractive way to be.” says Morrissey in an interview found in “Homme Alone 2″ by David Keeps. “There’s more to life than being macho – such an ugly word – which is something that I realized at the age of one.”

In regards to Morrissey’s relationship with his fans, he has on many occasions shown his appreciation for them, particularly with his massive Latino following whom he has gone to great lengths to add several South American shows to his tours for or like in this “Hanging With MTV” interview. In the case of the “Fuck Morrissey-Solo.Com” T-shirts that he and his band wore at a show in St. George’s Hall in Bradford, England, this was done as a retort to the fan-website that had turned their back on the singer saying that he “desperately needs a new backing band.” In my personal opinion, Morrissey’s band is the tightest and fiercest it’s ever been and if any publication told me to jettison such a hard-working entourage of my close friends, I would tell them to fuck off, too.

As for this assertion: “Morrissey has the royalties set up so bassist Andy Rourke and drummer Mike Joyce only get 10% each. Morrissey and Marr have four times that amount.” Actually, Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce have it set up so that they only receive 10% of sales from Smiths recordings because of the contracts they signed themselves while still in the band. I don’t know the exact amount that Morrissey and Marr make off Smiths sales but I can assure you it’s a lot more than the group’s rhythm section, mainly because they wrote the songs.

The elephant in the room however is the accusations of racism. These have stemmed all the way back to 1988 when Morrissey released a song called “Bengalli in Platforms,” which contained lyrics intending to sympathize with South Asians emmigrating to the U.K. While Morrissey tells the boy to “shelve [his] western plans,” he is saying so not because he wants him out of England, but because he knows that the general public there is racist. The lyrics from this song were misinterpreted though and Morrissey has frequently received racism accusations ever since (a movement spearheaded by the “New Musical Express”).

Morrissey states in his 2007 interview with “NME,” “Although I don’t have anything against people from other countries, the higher the influx into England the more the British identity disappears. So the price is enormous. If you travel to Germany, it’s still absolutely Germany. If you travel to Sweden, it still has a Swedish identity. But travel to England and you have no idea where you are.” While this was a point Morrissey made that he stands by as being “a statement of fact,” Morrissey says he told interviewer Tim Jonze that he does not want to move back to England because of property cost, but this was not included in the original “NME” article. This omission might be one of the reasons Jonze asked for his name to be removed the piece saying “I didn’t want my name on something I hadn’t written,” claiming that the “NME” took excessive liberties with his piece.

At this point, it would be an understatement to say Morrissey has an irreverent tongue, but when he says “You can’t help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies” it’s easy to say that he’s gone too far. That is unless you look at the whole quote rather than the fragment taken from his interview with The Guardian –- “Did you see the thing on the news about their treatment of animals and animal welfare? Absolutely horrific. You can’t help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies.” While his generalization about the entire country of China is of course a hasty summation, you can at least understand where the quip is coming from if you take the time to look into some of the horrific facts about the treatment of animals in China.

Morrissey is a staunch Animal Rights activist and has taken numerous stands against places that are especially cruel to animals like when he boycotted Canada in 2006 for his “Ringleader of the Tormentors” tour in response to the 325,000 seals that were hunted dead in the country that year. This protest could be likened to the Conor Oberst-led boycott of Arizona in 2010 when the state passed the AZ SB 1070 immigration law. Some felt that the Arizona protesters could have been more effective by playing Arizona venues and denouncing the act at their shows while others believed that by avoiding the state altogether, a stronger message could be brought on by their silence. I’m personally an advocate of the former but can understand the desires for the latter on both Morrissey and Oberst’s accounts.

The last point I will address here are Morrissey’s remarks on American punk rock’s sacred cow The Ramones. I like The Ramones. I think they were a great update of the simplistic rock & roll spirit combining sugar sweet pop melodies with a few chords and a great deal of charisma. I however didn’t always feel this way. When I was 17, I thought The Ramones were boring, hackneyed and the least relevant element of the incredibly important late-70s alternative culture. That was the age Steven Patrick Morrissey was when he penned his scathing summation of the band in a 1976 issue of “Melody Maker.” A lot changed for me after that age. I joined a band, started writing and got a job at a record store, all of which helped come to terms with my misguided conception of The Ramones. I just hope no one will hold me to any of the comments I made of the band during those high school years.

When I approached this I was going to make it a post of ten reasons why Morrissey is great but I think to actually go through with the task is an insult to the man. His accomplishments speak for themselves. His words have pulled a generation of awkward kids out the holes that societal norms buried them in and his songs are directly responsible for many excellent artists such as Jeff Buckley, Belle & Sebastian and The Decemberists rising to the challenge and creating beautiful music themselves that have in some cases surpassed that of their teacher. But mainly, Morrissey is great for simply being an original, and while it’s difficult to see eye-to-eye with the man on every issue, to underestimate his greatness is a disservice only to oneself.

Oh, and as for the “same haircut, sound, and schtick for the last 30 years” argument — I say if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

UPDATE: Mike Joyce from The Smiths has contested a claim I made in this article that was sourced from a statement Morrissey had released on the True to You zine website in 2005. The statement is in regards to the royalties he and bassist Andy Rourke receive from the sales of Smiths recordings.

Joyce: “Hi Doug, Just need to clear up any confusion on the matter as it seems there clearly is. Morrissey & Marr received 50% each of publishing royalties, and rightly so, because they wrote the songs. Myself and Andy Rourke received 10% of record sales. Morrissey & Marr received 40% each of record sales. There never was a contract, signed or not dictating what the share should be.”

  1. September 27, 2012 at 2:25 pm, Audra Herrera said:

    Wow. This is great. Mr. Toured with Hanson should retract his article immediately.

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  2. September 27, 2012 at 4:39 pm, Andrew Poitras said:

    TLNR

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  3. September 27, 2012 at 5:07 pm, Maura C. Smith said:

    It speaks volumes that not only is this "pro-Moz" article based on a much stronger and logically sound argument than the original "anti-Moz" article, but also very well-written…

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    • September 27, 2012 at 8:34 pm, Jeremoz Tobias said:

      The OP of the Morrissey sucks article actually "LIKED" the counter argument that someone wrote.

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  4. September 27, 2012 at 9:23 pm, Bill Wikstrom said:

    Nice piece. Agreed 100%. I was actually wondering why there was a relevent need for a "Why Morrissey Doesn't Suck" article. Especially in…2012? It's to counter another article. Now it makes sense. I heard the same, except everyone I speak with seems to think his last good one was Your Arsenal. I was 17 years old in a band with 24/25 year olds in 1994 who worshipped The Ramones. I always liked the form – I loved Husker Du, The Buzzcocks and plenty other similar bands – but was never interested in the content. It took me years to just like them (and even then, just their 70's material). Same goes for The Stooges. Like the form and the sound but the actual songs, not so much.

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  5. September 28, 2012 at 7:18 am, Adam White said:

    I think it's worth point out that the Ramones are the epitome of a band that had the same haircut, sound and schtick for 30 years. Or close to it.

    On a side note, the artwork for the "Something Is Squeezing My Skull" single shows Morrissey hugging a statue of Johnny Ramone. Maybe he's doing it ironically or maybe it means nothing. But it's possible his musical tastes changed somewhere over the course of his life.

    I actually judge him a bit now for liking the Ramones, but that's just me.

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  6. September 30, 2012 at 11:23 am, Mike Joyce said:

    “Morrissey has the royalties set up so bassist Andy Rourke and drummer Mike Joyce only get 10% each. Morrissey and Marr have four times that amount.” Actually, Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce have it set up so that they only receive 10% of sales from Smiths recordings because of the contracts that they signed themselves while still in the band. I don’t know the exact amount that Morrissey and Marr make off Smiths sales but I can assure you it’s a lot more than the group’s rhythm section, mainly because they wrote the songs.

    Hi Doug, Just need to clear up any confusion on the matter as it seems there clearly is. Morrissey & Marr received 50% each of publishing royalties, and rightly so, because they wrote the songs. Myself and Andy Rourke received 10% of record sales. Morrissey & Marr received 40% each of record sales. There never was a contract, signed or not dictating what the share should be.

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    • September 30, 2012 at 11:27 am, Phil Jones said:

      Fucking best rhyhtm section there ever was and made peanuts, it's the same the world over.x

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    • September 30, 2012 at 11:27 am, Dale Tidman said:

      a very noble reply, Mike.

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    • September 30, 2012 at 11:32 am, Dave Spence said:

      Friends again = reunion?

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    • September 30, 2012 at 11:39 am, Suze Keogh said:

      Why do people feel the need to constantly defend Morrissey? He is more than capable of speaking for himself as history shows. Time has moved on, people all change, facts are facts and should always be checked first. Morrissey is not the person he once was, neither am I or you…The Smiths remain the greatest band I will ever hear or see. Just saying…

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    • September 30, 2012 at 11:41 am, Andy Horsman said:

      Amazing how everyone seems to be an expert on your situation Mike, as regards your earnings from The Smiths!

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    • September 30, 2012 at 12:14 pm, John Grogan said:

      Phil Reni & Mani best mancs Topper & Simonen best ever Sorry Mike & Andy. Youus were good tho. Oh nearly forgot Sly & Robbie

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    • September 30, 2012 at 12:22 pm, Phil Jones said:

      John I wasn't stating fact I was just stating opinion same as you son, however topper and simonen I'll give ye that but then some deep purple fan my take exception with our opinions. Whats the best poem in the world, it's open ended init.x

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    • September 30, 2012 at 12:31 pm, John Grogan said:

      Only Smiths song I liked thinking back was This Charning Man & that was down to Mike & Andy

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    • September 30, 2012 at 12:34 pm, Jacqueline Kennedy said:

      I think this area should be private between the musicians involved themselves

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    • September 30, 2012 at 12:34 pm, Phil Heppenstall said:

      If that's the only Smiths song you like then either a) you've not heard many b) your taste is a bit poor. It's all about opinions though ;-)

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    • September 30, 2012 at 12:37 pm, Jacqueline Kennedy said:

      Thanks Suze X

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    • September 30, 2012 at 12:39 pm, Vic Petruzzelli said:

      There's more to life then money you know but not much more…not much more!….

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    • September 30, 2012 at 1:01 pm, C.J. Knight said:

      I'd like to confess that I dont like The Smiths! I like most of the music and songs but I just can't stand Morrisey. Please reform with a new singer. You are all lovely people and deserve better friends and business partners. *in my opinion. :-) xxxx <3

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    • September 30, 2012 at 1:05 pm, Phil Heppenstall said:

      I don't like Morrissey's public persona but The Smiths wouldn't have been The Smiths without him.

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    • September 30, 2012 at 1:44 pm, Jacqueline Kennedy said:

      The Smiths are BRILLIANT always have and always will be no matter what anyone says about this and that. They are a band and gifted artists in their own right. No matter what happens The Smiths have a place in Music History and will continue to do so X

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    • September 30, 2012 at 1:45 pm, Kevin Makepeace said:

      hook x morris best rythm section bar non,!

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    • September 30, 2012 at 1:46 pm, Jacqueline Kennedy said:

      Thanks Bernadette X

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    • September 30, 2012 at 1:50 pm, Bernadette Woodcock said:

      Love love love the smiths. An aguished teenager became a grown woman who is often the only person dancing to the smiths. Even get my dad dancing to them now despite him hating my choice of music when I was a kid. My children also love them. My only regret? Not seeing them live xx

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    • September 30, 2012 at 1:51 pm, Bernadette Woodcock said:

      Sorry that should have said anguished !

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    • September 30, 2012 at 2:31 pm, Rodrigo Oscalis Martins said:

      Mike, Johnny Rogan's books beg to differ, as you may well be aware, and they both cite an actual contract signed only by Morrissey, Marr and Geoff Travis that states the aforementioned shares, apparently at the instigation of Morrissey and Marr, and against Joe Moss' wish. I've always understood your court case against Morrissey and Marr was to rectify this, and as far as I'm concerned you've won, forcing Johnny to pay you back your monies and Steven to flee Britain after you nearly got his mum's Manchester estate.

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    • September 30, 2012 at 2:33 pm, Rodrigo Oscalis Martins said:

      Inaccurate?

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    • September 30, 2012 at 3:30 pm, Jason Clark said:

      Class act, mate.

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    • September 30, 2012 at 4:00 pm, Mike Joyce said:

      You're relating to the record contract Rodrigo. There was no mention whatsoever in that contract as to how the money generated was to be shared between the four members.

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    • September 30, 2012 at 7:18 pm, Mike Coy said:

      Timing of this is a little suspect. ;) Only one week before Glastonbury tickets go on sale – generate the publicity which then pours in interest and longing for The Smiths to be reformed?? Well I Wonder?

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    • September 30, 2012 at 8:06 pm, Oscar Fly Jaimes said:

      Mike now you know why morrissey wrote money changes everthing? Rest asure when they die that money won't go with them. They know what they did.

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    • September 30, 2012 at 9:31 pm, Juan Pablo Hyde said:

      Igual me cae como el dick Morrissey.

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    • October 02, 2012 at 12:41 am, Brett Selby said:

      I get my smiths fix on a weekly basis and never a session goes by I don't think….. Ya no way the Smiths would have sounded the same without Mike and Andy …. It's an aura thing

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    • December 04, 2012 at 3:56 am, Doug Bleggi said:

      To Mike Joyce and others who've read this article,

      I've appended Mr. Joyce's statement to the main article. Thank you all for reading.

      Doug Bleggi.

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  7. October 01, 2012 at 11:34 pm, David Tseng said:

    "…In the case of the “Fuck Morrissey-Solo.Com” T-shirts that he and his band wore at a show in St. George’s Hall in Bradford, England, this was done as a retort to the fan-website that had turned their back on the singer saying that he “desperately needs a new backing band.” In my personal opinion, Morrissey’s band is the tightest and fiercest it’s ever been and if any publication told me to jettison such a hard-working entourage of my close friends, I would tell them to fuck off, too."

    While some users on the site may have expressed the opinion (it's an open forum), the 'publication' or 'site' itself did not say anything of the sort.

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    • October 01, 2012 at 11:51 pm, Angela Larson said:

      That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Morrissey-Solo had nothing to do with that sentiment. I mean, we all know that Morrissey desperately needs a new backing band, but we know that from listening to his uninspired band, not from reading it on Morrissey-Solo! ;)

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    • October 02, 2012 at 12:18 am, Jay Judge said:

      No he doesn't…when looking for a great backing band you want a tight group, those who compliment you, and the band does…this is not the Smiths…nor do most want it to be…do I miss Gaz and Al yes but the band is tight….

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    • October 02, 2012 at 12:43 am, Ursula Valdes said:

      I don't get why he bitches about morrissey-solo he should have only gratefulness to the site that has supported him and brought fans together for over 15 years.
      On the other had , I'm sorry but I don't think his current band is anything special ..except for Boz .

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    • October 02, 2012 at 5:59 am, Jeff Locher said:

      Exactly! Moz seems to forget that Morrissey-solo was the ONLY site for some time & David's NEVER wavered his support for Morrissey.

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    • October 02, 2012 at 9:27 am, Helena Figueiredo said:

      I think the writer of this piece did not know Morrissey's band from 20 years ago *ahem* Not to mention the site itself had nothing to do with such opinions. You know what I say? "Whatever…"

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    • October 04, 2012 at 9:04 pm, Jack Robinson said:

      The site is shit man

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    • October 04, 2012 at 9:11 pm, Thom Wills said:

      Morrissey-solo is a fucking joke, I know you're a fan of the man and I like you for it but the site is just plain crap. And Mozzer's band is fantastic, very tight imo

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  8. October 04, 2012 at 9:02 pm, Jack Robinson said:

    Morrissey is a fucking legend, the greatest lyricist and most unique artist of all time. He is God end of.

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  9. October 26, 2012 at 8:02 pm, Kristina Hoerler said:

    You said (wrote) exactly what I was thinking! Thank you!

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  10. December 03, 2012 at 5:45 pm, Hear Johnny Marr play The Smiths’ ‘Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want’ on BBC | Death and Taxes said:

    [...] afterward and who was really the creative genius behind the band. The thing with The Smiths is that Morrissey is such an asshole that he makes it really easy to support Johnny Marr.However I did not come here [...]

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  11. December 13, 2012 at 12:02 pm, David Quinlan said:

    Oh God, Morrissey fans depress me.

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  12. January 09, 2013 at 3:01 pm, Morrissey performs unreleased song ‘Action is My Middle Name’ on Letterman | Death and Taxes said:

    [...] Morrissey fans had a roller coaster of a fall last year. First canceling and then rescheduling his US tour, fans were thrown through a loop of emotions. Thankfully however, today the legend starts off this extensive tour in New Jersey that sees him travel throughout North America. [...]

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  13. February 26, 2013 at 11:34 am, Morrissey cancels tonight’s Jimmy Kimmel appearance because other guests are ‘serial killers’ | Death and Taxes said:

    [...] day, another turn in the vicissitudes of Morrissey‘s will-he won’t-he career. After canceling a string of 2012 shows due to ill health, [...]

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