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MSNBC’s Tamron Hall: Shirley Sherrod Scandal ‘A Kick in the Gut’

Anyone who tunes into MSNBC during the daytime has no doubt seen excellent anchor Tamron Hall and been enthralled by her astute analysis and no nonsense approach to world events. I know I was, so I reached out and asked for an interview. She graciously agreed, and offers us all her perspective on racism, the media’s place in society and how news outlets screwed up the Shirley Sherrod story.

“People have a love/hate relationship with the media,” declares MSNBC’s daytime anchor, Tamron Hall. “People will curse the media, but as soon as something goes wrong, they call the media.” Considering the 39-year-old beauty has been in the business for two decades, it’s a pretty good bet Hall knows what she’s talking about.

The daughter of a master sergeant and an educator, Hall grew up in the small Austin suburb called Luling, Texas, amidst a family culture soaked in politics. “We spent every evening watching the news, and politics was hot topic in my house, to say the least,” Hall recalled during our interview last week. “We watched the evening news, every single day my mom and dad would start their day with the paper, over coffee. It was just a part of my DNA, if you will, my learning curve as a child.” Not in her DNA? The singing gene.

“In my family, we would have these big birthday parties, and there were kids who could sing, or could dance, and I couldn’t sing or dance, so I was the MC, so I thought that I would be Johnny Carson.” From Carson, Hall’s imagination traveled to 60 Minutes, and then, following her dreams, to a local news station in Bryan-College Station, Texas. Hall eventually migrated to Chicago’s Fox affiliate, where she worked for ten years before joining MSNBC in 2007.

Hall’s star has never been brighter now that she’s on MSNBC, and that means she gets an earful about how “liberal” her network has become. “I hate that,” she admits without hesitation. “It makes me mad, to be honest with you, because like the day side coverage on MSNBC is balanced; my colleagues are not huddled in a corner saying, ‘Okay, this is what we’re going to do today to get the message out for the liberals.’” And to prove her point, Hall readily admits that she receives angry emails from both sides of the political divide “who feel that you are not doing justice to their side.”  She describes the virtual outcry as a “badge of honor,” and proof positive that her reporting falls in the middle.

The journalist does concede, however, that MSNBC’s prime time does lean left, but that it serves an important purpose: “Certainly [our prime-time coverage] is different, and they are needed to balance what is out there on, not just Fox, but other sources that are conservative media outlets.”

Of course, neither side of the media divide gets it right 100% of the time, and Hall specifically cites the already infamous Shirley Sherrod case, in which conservative blogger Andrew Breitbart edited video to imply that Sherrod, an African-American former USDA official, had withheld aid from a white farmer. Sherrod was asked to resign, and now plans to sue Breitbart.

“[The media] should be ashamed of ourselves at what happened. Even though it was a certain blogger that started an irresponsible journey, we didn’t stop it,” Hall confesses. “But I think that’s part of the learning curve, the ‘teachable moment.’ It was a real kick in the gut for credible journalists.”

The Sherrod situation was only a small moment in our nation’s seemingly endless conversation about race a concept with which Hall’s all too familiar. Asked whether she could recall her first experience with racism, Hall laughed, “I remember my first, my last, the other day! Listen, I grew up in Texas; I actually experienced fewer situations that would be a ‘racist’ scenario, than I did in Philadelphia, than I did in Chicago, than I do in New York.” One example, the “dirty eye” she sometimes receives when walking into retail shops.

Despite confronting racism on a regular basis, Hall insists that it doesn’t “bother” her: “It saddens me, but I don’t feel anger. I’m not saying that I’m used to it, or numb to it; I do think it’s intriguing that people attempt to have real conversations about race, when I think in our hearts we know we’re not having that real conversation.” She continues, “Quite honestly, I don’t know if we’re capable of it.”

Hall then points to a blogger’s recent post highlighting MSNBC’s “color-blind” inclusion of her lovely mug on their website. “MSNBC added Token Hall, I mean Tamron Hall to their diverse lineup of featured hosts,” wrote the blogger. “This is a victory for not only those in the black community, but also for those who have been fighting for racial progress.” Hall was not amused.

“It’s not as if MS dragged me off the street. This is not Trading Places, where they took me off the corner and dusted me off and put me up there. Good grief! I’ve been doing this a long time; I’ve been on TV since I was 18-years old!” Even if Hall weren’t black, race would naturally come up during her on-camera hours, daily at 11am and 2pm.

Just last month things got a little lively with Tea Party Express leader Mark Williams, who called the NAACP “racist” for using the word “colored” in their name. He also blamed political foes for the off-color, offensive signs so often brandished at Tea Party rallies.

As you can see with in the video above, Hall didn’t quite know what to make of Williams’ argument, and still doesn’t. “I’ve seen no proof of what he says is true,” asserts Hall when asked about Williams’ signage defense. “Until he provides proof that members of the NAACP snuck those signs in, or whatever he was saying, then I can’t believe that version. But I’m open to proof.”

Back to the media, and its impact on the political realm at large: I asked Hall whether she thinks pundits and journalists play an “oversized” role in pushing policy. Bill O’Reilly, after all, makes no secret of his right-wing leanings.

Though she disagreed with my adjective of choice, Hall acknowledges that some viewers rely too heavily on news personalities when going to the ballot box. “I do think that you have some voters who depend on those big voices to make their decisions for them. You have a story line that’s creating, and the next thing you know, people form an opinion based on no research of their own,” says Hall.

“It’s your vote, and you have to own that. It’s not mine. It’s not Rachel Maddow’s. It can’t be Bill O’Reilly’s idea of what a vote should be. It’s yours. I just wish people would own it  more.”

Despite their “official” separation, however, media and politics are intrinsically linked. And, as MSNBC’s slogan proclaims, “Politics matter.” Hall whole-heartedly concurs: “Politics effects our daily lives. It sets the policies for everything we do, from my ability to vote to somebody else’s ability to get married. Politics is not the government, because we are the government, and it effects everything that we do.” Hall continues, “What else is more important?”

As the nation moves forward into the midterm elections, Hall will remain as dedicated as ever to exploring the issues of the day, whatever they maybe, and she couldn’t be happier. Asked whether she wishes she had received the aforementioned singing gene, Hall laughs, “Not at all, because I’m happy I can do what I do.”

Top image via John C. Abell’s Flickr.

  1. August 05, 2010 at 3:41 pm, Dennis M. Francis said:

    I love her work and find her informative and smart. Thank you for this interview with a fine example of a news-person.

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  2. August 05, 2010 at 3:51 pm, Ricardo said:

    As sharp as she is gorgeous, Tamron Hall is one of my favorites. I hope she gets more and more exposure on MSNBC and NBC.

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  3. August 05, 2010 at 3:53 pm, Traveler501 said:

    I don't know about “love hate” with the media…more like we need them, and they perpetually let us down. I like Hall's perspective all in all though, and she is clearly at least serious about her work.

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  4. August 05, 2010 at 3:58 pm, Bob said:

    Do we really have to bring up her looks?

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    • August 05, 2010 at 4:58 pm, Zachary Ferguson said:

      Tamron is apart of new school reporting, everyone want to know what the reporters are wearing, its a part of what make news exciting to watch and look forward too. fashion is huge part of news coverage, you can't seperate the two.

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  5. August 05, 2010 at 4:21 pm, Youdono said:

    She's smart, competent, hardworking, but above all… she's hawt!!!!!!!!

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  6. August 05, 2010 at 4:35 pm, Bumpsy said:

    I love her wardrobe. Where do you shop, Ms. Hall?

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  7. August 05, 2010 at 4:59 pm, WILLIESPEAKS said:

    Tamron Hall, serious journalist, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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    • August 05, 2010 at 5:15 pm, Lisa said:

      Why exactly is she not a serious journalist?

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  8. August 05, 2010 at 5:03 pm, Austin said:

    MSNBC – Seriously! Propaganda – that's more like it!

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    • August 05, 2010 at 7:41 pm, Austininc4 said:

      For someone who is a Fraud News viewer you should know a lot about “PROPAGANDA”. It's Mental Midgets like you would believe all the LIES coming from Fraud News, and Rush Limpballs.

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    • August 05, 2010 at 8:32 pm, estevan said:

      It's not but I'll agree that it's falling into the Fox News trap of biased reporting. It's a shame they feel compelled to off-set Fox. However that's all they're doing. Fox is still the top dog though in manipulative information and fake “news”. I hope MSNBC stops while they're still ahead.

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  9. August 05, 2010 at 5:04 pm, Tedrich said:

    So let me get this straight, when she sees somebody looking at her in a way she doesn't like she assumes the person is racist? That is amazing. Maybe they're jealous cause she's so hot, maybe they are mean people, maybe they are having a bad day, and yes maybe someone has racial prejudices but to assume everyone who doesn't look at you right is a racist I find unbelievable. That itself is somewhat racist if you think about it. If half the people being accused of being racists today actually were, Obama could never have been elected.

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    • August 05, 2010 at 5:14 pm, Lisa said:

      Are you kidding? You honestly don't think an AA woman knows the difference between someone looking at her because of jealousy and someone wondering if you're going to steal something? There's not a Black-skinned woman in this country that doesn't know that look. So you need to stop writing about what you don't know or trying to justify your own racist views.

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      • August 05, 2010 at 5:28 pm, andrewbelonsky said:

        I agree with Arey and Lisa: I know people in retail and they have readily, and unabashedly, admitted that they monitor black customers more than white. It's a disgusting trend, and not one that appears to be going away anytime soon. It's akin to moving away from a black man on the street.

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        • August 05, 2010 at 5:50 pm, Ted said:

          I'm just sick of hearing people saying they're victims. Yesterday I was reading that story about the black guy who killed 8 white people at work because he felt he was a 'victim' of a racial bias. Its insanity you're not a victim if someone looks at you funny and its not racism if they do. I thought Obama was going to make us a post racial country, well we could be if people would just get over it.

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          • August 05, 2010 at 8:01 pm, SouthernGirl2 said:

            Tedrich

            Thornton didn't “feel” anything. He reported racial harassment to his superiors & was ignored. Finding a hangman's noose and seeing racial epithets directed at said person is more than a “feeling”. Talk to me when you've been racially harassed for 30 years or so. Then we can talk.

          • August 05, 2010 at 9:14 pm, Ted said:

            So you're justifying the murder of 8 people? Theres no reason to acknowledge anything you say after that. Your opinions are as invalid as a nazi who would justify the holocaust.

          • August 06, 2010 at 8:08 pm, Mollybeejay said:

            Tedrich, you are correct in that there is no justification for murdering 8 people or for murdering anyone for that matter. However, your analogy is horribly wrong. The Nazis eradicated Jews because they knew they could, not because they had been harassed by Jews or called named. Theirs was a coordinate effort with long years of planning to create a master race of people.

          • August 08, 2010 at 2:01 pm, Nakins said:

            So, just how long have you been practicing the political arts? Your play here was well made. But, I think the Willie Horton tactic has been played way to much.

        • August 08, 2010 at 7:12 am, sheaintsayin said:

          Except that it is not a 'trend' – it is a fact of life since from forever.

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      • August 05, 2010 at 5:35 pm, Ted said:

        I guess this is Obamas 'typical white person' theory. I didn't know you had built in racist detector. Obviously yours is broken because you said I have racist views which is untrue. So only black people get bad looks from people and the rest of the people on earth just live in utopia where everyone loves one another and smiles at each other? It must be rough to be a victim all the time.

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        • August 05, 2010 at 6:09 pm, Cvale said:

          I must have that detector you speak of too because as soon as I read your post the light lit up and the bell sounded !

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        • August 05, 2010 at 7:27 pm, Thomas_berry77 said:

          how you know you don't have racist views because clarence thomas told you so.. get a grip man.. only 5% of the time people say something about racism its false the other 95% you can book it.. stop making excuses for the dumb and ignorant and help them with that disease called racism!

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          • August 05, 2010 at 10:14 pm, Ted said:

            It is mind boggeling that a human being would type this post and hit send. You've beat me I can't answer something this insane..I wouldn't know where to start.

      • August 05, 2010 at 7:16 pm, SouthernGirl2 said:

        Please tell it!

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      • August 05, 2010 at 9:18 pm, Joebob said:

        And you need to stop thining it is possible to know what other people are thinking. You do not, and can not know what other people are thinking when they look at you. It's just an impossibility. You are no mind-reader. The skill you claim to possess is not within humans' ability to attain.

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      • August 06, 2010 at 8:04 pm, Mollybeejay said:

        Thank you Lisa. The person above has no idea what Black folk go through each and every day of our lives. Quick story. A few years ago I was visiting SF. I went to a large mall there and walked into a leather goods store. There was 1 other customer there – a young white male. The sales girl gave me the look and proceeded to follow me around the store. While she was following me, the guy grabbed a huge pile of leather goods and ran out of the store. She was shocked. I stood there with her, calmed her down and waited while she called the police and her manager. After it was all over, she apologized to me for thinking i would be the criminal.

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      • September 21, 2010 at 4:55 am, Keriann1971 said:

        all people know “the look” it does'nt just happen to AA women. the people who usually get the look are lower income people.

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    • August 05, 2010 at 5:21 pm, arey said:

      You are just naive if you don't understand what Hall meant. It happens less and less, but most black Americans are keenly aware that they are often looked at as suspects, rather than customers browsing or window shopping. You want to reverse her statement for your own myopic view, fine. But she never said that this happened to her all the time.

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    • August 05, 2010 at 6:07 pm, Cvale said:

      If your not black or other ” noticeable” minority, you would have no clue what Tamron is referring to but believe me she is right on the money! ” What other reason would a black be in my store for unless it was to shoplift ? ” or ” She is black, therefore could never afford to buy anything in here, keep an eye on her, she must be stealing”
      It is an everyday occurrence and most non-minorities don't even have a clue that blacks confront these attitudes everyday of their lives. So please spare me the phony outrage, ignorance perhaps but not outrage

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      • August 05, 2010 at 6:51 pm, Ted said:

        You're not a victim if you don't like how someone looks at you! You don't think it goes the other way and for a million reasons other than race. You don't see the reverse racism happening today? Like the NAACP labeling teaparty members as racists. Or Obama going to a racist pastor for 20 years or his DOJ not prosecuting Black Panthers guilty of voter intimidation because of race. Or labeling white police as stupid in a racial issue without knowing any facts. Or the 90% + of the black vote going to Obama. Or Shirley Sherrod saying that opposition to the health care bill was because we have a black president. What happened to the content of character. As long as people like you play the race and victim card things will never change.

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        • August 05, 2010 at 8:37 pm, convoy said:

          I didn't like the looks I got when I went to to the all hispanic bar with my hispanic girlfriend. I didn't like the looks I got walking with my white girlfriend when she took me home to meet the family in a town with like 20 blacks. I didn't like either situation, but I sure didn't feel like a victim, and Tamron didn't say she felt victimized either. So where are you getting this victim thing from?

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          • August 05, 2010 at 9:59 pm, Ted said:

            Not from you. Yours is the rational response. People suck. White people suck black people suck and everyone in between. I want to move beyond race, Im sick of it. On my census form I wrote american under race. We need to move past all of this racialism and quit identifying ourselves this way. Until we literally accept doctor Kings dream of judging people by the content of their character we will be locked in racial pergatory and I'm starting to believe thats how some want it, like the ignorant comments of southerngirl2 justifying murder in the name of racial justice.

      • August 05, 2010 at 8:06 pm, SouthernGirl2 said:

        School'em, Cvale. School them!

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    • August 05, 2010 at 7:43 pm, PR_one said:

      Many racist defend their behavior using the victim card.

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  10. August 05, 2010 at 5:18 pm, oldfuzz said:

    Calm down. Think things through. Check the facts. Print retractions on page one above the fold.

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  11. August 05, 2010 at 5:22 pm, Cwms84 said:

    It's about time MSNBC INCLUDED her in the line-up. CNN is so diverse they didn't bother making a line-up Ad. Since Fox doesn't have any Blacks with their own hour, they can't INCLUDE them. Sad.

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  12. August 05, 2010 at 5:26 pm, ChicagoMitch said:

    She claims she needs proof of racism in NAACP – can anyone provide proof that some supposed black congressman were spat upon at the ObamaCare rally ?

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    • August 05, 2010 at 6:12 pm, Cvale said:

      There was proof and it was aired on MSNBC. Where were you…wiping off your mouth?

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      • August 05, 2010 at 8:02 pm, Ted said:

        No it isn't anywhere on tape you are wrong. Despite the thousands of cameras cameraphones and microphones there is no evidence of it. In fact there is a $100,000 reward for anyone with proof of it which is unclaimed because it didn't happen, it was a lie. A lie which is 100 times worse than if someone had said that horrible word.

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        • August 05, 2010 at 8:10 pm, SouthernGirl2 said:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmP4Gb2pEsY

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          • August 05, 2010 at 9:47 pm, Ted said:

            oh my god a guy wiped his face after antagonizing a demonstrater! ALL OPPOSTION TO HEALTH CARE IS RACISM. You heard it hear first

    • August 05, 2010 at 7:16 pm, Thomas_berry77 said:

      yeah they got it on tape.. why ask that question.. if the man said he was spit on he was.. thats not something to be proud of…next you'll be asking if obama was born in this country.. my bad yall already asking that dumb question… hawaii is the 50th state

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      • September 21, 2010 at 5:10 am, Kellyann1981 said:

        why doesnt the president prove where he was born? all the other presidets have shown legal documents to their birth place. asking for a legal document makes a person racist?

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    • August 05, 2010 at 9:19 pm, BROLIATH said:

      THANKS FOR CUTTING MY SENTENCE SHORT MR ANDREW BELONSKY!
      HERE’S MY COMPLETE SENTENCE:

      “This is a victory for not only those in the black community, but also for those who have been fighting for racial progress FROM THOSE WHO PREACH IT.”

      THANKS!

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    • August 05, 2010 at 11:13 pm, BVictor1 said:

      Other than the video that was posted on the matter?

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  13. August 05, 2010 at 5:36 pm, Gwj2000 said:

    Tamron is a sharp anchor and a great personality for news.

    It's only a matter of time before she gets an anchor chair.

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  14. August 05, 2010 at 5:46 pm, Marcus said:

    I watch her because she has a great rack and backside, period!

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  15. August 05, 2010 at 6:08 pm, gmail said:

    Did you just use … “Tamron Hall” and “has a pretty good idea she knows what she's talking about” in the same sentence? Eck? Tamron Hall has absolutely NO idea what she's talking about. That is why she chose to get breast implants in 2006 –

    http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/people/15

    Sorry, but your statement put the OXY … in OXYMORON

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    • August 07, 2010 at 6:05 pm, longbongsilver said:

      She got her breasts enlarged, she didn't have her brain shrunk. Moron.

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  16. August 05, 2010 at 6:09 pm, qu1j0t3 said:

    6th para: consent -> concede

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  17. August 05, 2010 at 6:36 pm, Mel2525J said:

    When in Chicago she told viewers that when she was a baby her mother used to wipe her unrine soaked diapers on her face for bueatiful skin!

    She's a moron

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  18. August 05, 2010 at 8:28 pm, estevan said:

    Why is she so gorgeous?

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  19. August 05, 2010 at 8:28 pm, Soren2112 said:

    luling is actually a small town about 30 minutes south east of austin. it's not really a suburb as it exists in its own right and has since the 1800's. it smells like oil because there are oil wells outside of town and they have a watermelon thump every year. exciting, huh?

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  20. August 05, 2010 at 8:32 pm, estevan said:

    It's not but I'll agree that it's falling into the Fox News trap of biased reporting. It's a shame they feel compelled to off-set Fox. However that's all they're doing. Fox is still the top dog though in manipulative information and fake “news”. I hope MSNBC stops while they're still ahead.

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  21. August 05, 2010 at 8:37 pm, convoy said:

    I didn't like the looks I got when I went to to the all hispanic bar with my hispanic girlfriend. I didn't like the looks I got walking with my white girlfriend when she took me home to meet the family in a town with like 20 blacks. I didn't like either situation, but I sure didn't feel like a victim, and Tamron didn't say she felt victimized either. So where are you getting this victim thing from?

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  22. August 05, 2010 at 8:57 pm, Doug8921 said:

    Dear Tamron,

    You are not a real journalist. You are a hack and an ebarrassement to your profession. Please place the blame where it belongs and that is on the White House as they fired Mrs. Sharrod without cause. Shame on you for sending the blame to a blogger.

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  23. August 05, 2010 at 10:59 pm, Charles Freeman said:

    Great article on a great and always classy newsperson.

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  24. August 06, 2010 at 2:14 pm, Tom Blanca Robinson said:

    While I would never agree with killing people, I do find it interesting that you say that this would be a post racial country if ” black people would just get over it.” Your argument would have more validity when you tell jewish peolpe to “just get over the holocaust”…

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  25. August 06, 2010 at 6:10 pm, Jarand said:

    Ms. Hall is doing a great job at MSNBC/NBC and I to hope that she continue to have opportunity to work. Having the ability to expound on the various news articles and interview guest of very diverse backgrounds is truly an art form. Good luck Tamron and keep up the good work.

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  26. September 13, 2010 at 7:52 pm, mssisyphus said:

    I love Tamron, but it drives me NUTS when she pronounces her “D's” as “T's”, as in Rotney King instead of Rodney King!

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