The Democratic party was in a festive mood after the House of Representatives passed a bill granting legal status to students who immigrated to the United States illegally.
America: the land of endless opportunities. As long as you are white, rich, your parents were born in the United States, you cannot distinguish between raising your voice and speaking another language, and peanut butter is one of the three essentials you would take to a deserted island over a knife.
On Wednesday, the House of Representatives passed a bill that could grant a laborious, daunting path to citizenship for hundreds of thousands of alien immigrants who were brought to the United States illegally as children.
However, when the bill was brought to the Senate on Thursday for a vote that could open discussion in advancing the legislation, Senate majority leader Harry Reid deferred the vote until later this month.
Everyone knows what that means. Goodbye Dream Act. The bill passed the House by a vote of 216 to 198, and while President Obama and Democratic leaders shared in a Rocky moment of unexpected victory, Senate Republicans have put a block on the vote until the Obama tax deal passes.
But thanks to the constant “Les Miserables” style tug of war that governs every decision made in the Senate in American history, that just may never happen.
With a splash of cold irony, House Democrats pushed the entire affair even deeper into the closet on Thursday, when they voted to block the Obama tax deal from even sneaking on stage for a vote due to the relief benefits for the wealthier brackets.
And the merry goes round. I would not start picking out your favorite college colors dear immigrants.
The Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act, or the DREAM Act, was first proposed in the United States Senate in 2001 and was re-introduced there and the House of Representatives in 2009.
The bill offers potential citizenship for certain illegal and deportable alien students who meet a series of unending criteria. Candidates must have arrived in the United States illegally and under the age of 16, graduated from a U.S. high school, have lived in the U.S. continuously for at least five years prior to the enactment of the bill, and be of “good moral character.”
Candidates may have trouble meeting the criteria of that last stipulation as the term’s definition may fluctuate depending on who is determining what constitutes “good” and “moral”, and even “character”.
So far adultery, embezzlement, shameless desecration of family values and a gaping lack of general consideration for human beings would not appear to prevent illegal aliens from moving forward with the application process.
Once able to verify eligibility, the individual would have to apply formally, though, at this point, as the legislation has not yet passed the application format remains unknown.
Government officials speculate that the first round of applications will consist of a vicious game of pin the tail on the donkey where a small, blunt pin will be replaced with a jagged, rusty blade, followed by a Martha Washington wig making contest, all to be scheduled after a night of sleep deprivation and a thin six-day diet of Four Loko and craisins.
Once the candidate has been approved and granted conditional permanent residency the individual would either have to enroll in an institution of higher education or enlist in the United States Military.
It looks like the fashion war between sweatpants and fatigues will not be put to rest any time soon.
84 years later after completing a series of humiliating and degrading acts, the applicant is considered for the honor of applying for Legal Permanent Residency, and if granted that title, and the candidate is not yet deceased from old age, he or she is able to apply for United States Citizenship.
Republicans responded to the expedited procedures employed by Democratic leaders to bring the bill to a vote unsmilingly. Texas Republic, Lamar Smith, said the bill “encourages fraud and more illegal immigration on a massive scale” according to The New York Times.
With the House being dominated by Republicans and the new Republican Congress in effect, the chances of the legalization of the legislation look about as promising as Sarah Palin ever shutting the hell up.
When the house passed the bill illegal immigrant students celebrated the faraway, once unfathomable concept of gaining legal status in the country in which many of them were born.
Many of these students demonstrated devotion to the process through marches, hunger strikes, sit-in protests, and some went as far as to send samples of their blood to lawmakers.
Though in retrospect, the signal might have hit more favorably with a fruit basket or a nice pen.
Lead sponsor of the bill, Howard L. Berman, envisioned an opportunity for hardworking, earnest, talented individuals to be granted equal status in a country where their unique skills and capabilities could be utilized and appreciated.
These are all valid, decent, honorable sentiments. He just may have chosen the wrong country.
December 10, 2010 at 12:57 am, 1andrew said:
Dream Act….D O A & Rightly so,more holes than the assholes day parade.What part of “Illegal” Don't you understand.
December 10, 2010 at 1:25 am, Tyrosell said:
@1andrew i know right “Illegal” did you have fun at the assholes day parade?
December 10, 2010 at 1:43 am, 1andrew said:
This didn't have enough votes in 2001.2002.2003.2004.2005.2006.2007.2008.2009 Gee, I sure hope it passes this time.hahahahahahahahahahahahahah… NOT GONNA HAPPEN! IT'S A BAD IDEA !
P S Tyrosell, I didn't go but saw a pic of you there.Did you like the award they gave you?
December 10, 2010 at 2:19 am, Love said:
Look ur just mad cus ull become a nobody. Unlike these kids that are fighting for their dreams. Ill be seeing u in jail.
December 10, 2010 at 2:30 am, Dianna Basio said:
Selfish. Only think of yourself and not others. Do you know how it feels like to be discriminated? No? Then Shush it.
December 10, 2010 at 3:19 am, Pollo said:
I agree with Diana, we can't work legally, we always hope we get some scholarships to help us pay our education, we have limited resources, i seen many of my friends suffering cuz they parents could find jobs, and if any they were not well payed, and i bet that guys feels better cuz he has paper. Go Dream Act!!!!!
December 20, 2010 at 4:00 am, illegal immigrant is illegal said:
Yes, there are many LEGAL immigrants that are discriminated against today, not just illegals. Just one difference: the legal immigrants came here the RIGHT way and work just as hard, if not harder than the illegals. I'm a legal immigrant and had to work my @$$ off to get into UC Berkeley and illegals come here demanding everything!!! Heres a tip- come into American the right way and then you can reap the benefits that America has sown.
December 10, 2010 at 3:10 am, dreamactgo said:
omg…white boy!!!!! be careful now you might bite your tung!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 10, 2010 at 8:11 am, Sg1452 said:
Wow smart ass, you have no fucking heart. I'm guessing you're a stupid little white boy that takes everything for granted. Probably drink or smoke..because that's just how much of an idiot you are. Hmm, well now you're probably thinking “this dumb bitch shouldn't make assumptions about me, she doesn't even know me”…Well that's exactly what intelligent people (aka pro Dream Act) think of you! You don't know shit! We have a African American president mothaa fokerr, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!
December 20, 2010 at 4:11 am, illegal immigrant is illegal said:
Get a real education before you bring such asinine and derogatory colloquy here. I have many “white” friends here at UC Berkeley that work hard for what they have. At least you have one authentic statement here, and that is, “We have an African American President.” Too bad he is hard working and LEGAL too…
December 10, 2010 at 10:09 am, the same said:
It did not pass during those years, but yet, nothing changed. And by nothing changed I mean, WE illegals kept on obtaining higher education. We kept on living in this country no matter what. We are still graduating from high school and college. If it doesn't pass, believe me, WE illegals will keep on doing our thang…
December 11, 2010 at 12:31 am, B9030w said:
Yeah…Just look at what happened in ARIZONA…….
Now 36 other states are considering the same law, and the RAT ILLEGALS are pouring out of those states by the thousands..!!!!!
LONG LIVE SB1070 !!!
December 10, 2010 at 1:39 am, Vivia said:
The “DREAM ACT'' would definitely help those young men/women who were bought here by their parents. They did not a choice, and now many of these youngsters are paying for for something they did not have control of. It would be good for these young men/women if this bill is pass. It will enable them to use their skill which would be beneficial to the country
December 10, 2010 at 2:46 am, Huecomundo said:
“Illegal” you Don't understand you are Illegal puto Indians where here before you and you kill then you are the real illegals coming to this country in a wood ship walk putos
December 10, 2010 at 8:12 am, Ke Osooo said:
touche!! jaja
pinches gringos mamones!!
December 10, 2010 at 4:34 am, Jake said:
What part of the “parents broke the law and not the children” don't you understand? Sure lets not give young illegal immigrants who came here at the age of 3 or 5 not a chance, who had no saying in this. Parents broke the Law, not the children.
December 10, 2010 at 10:04 am, get it right said:
Stupidity will bring you down some day guy.
December 10, 2010 at 3:46 pm, Zodapop said:
So now Americans claim their land. We are all immigrants, the only americans are the Native Americans you dumb asses
December 20, 2010 at 3:52 am, illegal immigrant is illegal said:
Just in case you didn't know, the Native Americans came over from Asia over an ice sheet during the last glacial period. Thus, there are no true Americans. Oh, it was the Spaniards that came here first and wrested the land from the natives.
December 10, 2010 at 12:58 am, DreamActNow said:
Why do senators keep prolonging the DREAM Act, they should vote on it now!
December 10, 2010 at 1:34 am, Mehereuthere101787 said:
This bill is a NIGHTMARE! Your arguments are asinine. This bill would allow millions of illegal immigrants to claim that they have been here and there is absolutely no way for our government to implement the checks needed to figure out who is lying. On top of that they get a 5 year free pass to stay here without worrying about being deported. Thousands of new immigrants will come across the border to reap the benefits of this bill. Either your opinion is seeded in ignorance or an extreme bias
December 10, 2010 at 2:36 am, Fabytrojan said:
Mehereeuthere or what ever ur name is you are an idiot. Have you even taken the time to read the bill??? You need to show proof that you graduated from High School, and show proof that you were accepted into a 4 year institution… Umm who is the ignorant now…
December 10, 2010 at 2:40 am, Dianna Basio said:
Ignorant. haha
December 10, 2010 at 3:21 am, marcos said:
Ignorant you are effin ignorant get your facts straight and an education! even tho you might be legal here, you lack the drive courage and persevirance to make it in this country!!! millions of immigrants will take the opportunity you decide to throw away every day on a six pack and a pack of reds!!! Just remember,! we dont trade what we want the most for what we want at the moment.
December 10, 2010 at 4:21 am, Jake said:
You'll be able to tell if they been here long enough, they either can't speak english at all or they speak english damn well. Dream act or no Dream act, new immigrants will try to cross the borders no matter what. This immigration thing needs to get rolling and they are doing the right thing by starting with the dream act.
December 14, 2010 at 8:14 pm, winston said:
WELCOME THOSE WHO FLEE. Hitler would have won world war two if he liberated rather than invaded the CCCP. Not the best analogy but I think those who matter understand.
December 10, 2010 at 4:33 am, SayYesToDreamAct said:
COME ACROSS THE BORDER? THE BORDERS ARE SECURE NOW…WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IMMIGRANTS WHO CAME HERE WITH A VISA AND PASSPORT, BUT STAYED HERE FOR MORE THAN 6 MONTHS…AFTER THE 6 MONTHS THEY ARE CONSIDERED ILLEGAL!!! THERE IS NO WAY ANYONE COULD LIE ABOUT NOT BEING HERE!!! IF THEY LEAVE THE COUNTRY THEY WOULD NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO COME BACK FOR STAYING HERE FOR MORE THAN 6 MONTHS…AND IF THEY WERE ALLOWED TO ENTER THE COUNTRY AGAIN, THEY WOULD GET A STAMP IN THEIR PASSPORTS WITH THE DATE THEY ENTERED THE COUNTRY…IF THEY ENTERED THE COUNTRY LESS THAN 5 YEARS AGO, THEN THEY WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTED UNDER THE DREAM ACT!! ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS TO HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA AND NEW IMMIGRANTS WOULDN'T HAVE THAT…NEW IMMIGRANTS POSSIBLY WOULDN'T EVEN SPEAK ENGLISH.
December 10, 2010 at 10:35 pm, No.to.backdoor.amnesty said:
The borders are secure now? That ALONE shows just how stupid you are. Hundreds a DAY are still jumping that fence. The ones that come here ILLEGALLY (majority) have no way of proving when they came here. Bwahahahah….date stamps in their passports – MORON.
December 10, 2010 at 3:40 pm, Zodapop said:
I think the ignorant here is you. You obviously have never applied for any type of immigration or legal status anywhere. FYI, in the USA as well as in Europe legalization processes are very strict. I find it very hard to believe that they will take people's word for this documentation process. Get out of your small world. There is so much more in life than USA and its politics and brain washed citizens, who believe everything TV tells them. IF you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem dear.
December 14, 2010 at 8:38 am, myvoice said:
It would do you well to read all the provisions in this act, in which they would have to have graduated from a high School or gotten a GED in the United States! Herein lies the answer to the problem you pose.
December 10, 2010 at 2:02 am, citizen said:
Why are we advocating for rights and citizenship for those who broke the law, continue to break the law? We have members of the GLBT community who have less rights than the illegal immigrants. Illegals have the right to marry, members of the GLBT community do not and these are native born citizens denied the same rights that people want illegals to have. Where is the liberty and justice for the GLBT community? Also, they are given tutition rates that are cheaper than native born Americans. An illegal attending college in Texas gets to go to college at in-state tuition rates, but a person living across the state line in Oklahoma, New Mexico or Arkansas has to pay out of state rates. Enough is enough.
December 10, 2010 at 2:39 am, Fabytrojan said:
Um Mr. Citizen it sounds like you are more concerned about telling others that you are gay than undesrtanding the real issue…
December 10, 2010 at 3:05 am, dreamactgo said:
look kid…… your breaking the law by been gay..not only here in the world but to the eyes of the lord. you should be ashamed of your self. as us trying to fight for something that does make sense. liberty and justice for does whom are part of the dream act…… WE ARE CREATED ECUAL DOES'NT MATTER WHAT RACE OR COLOR!!!!!!!!! think of what you will tell your kids…..
December 10, 2010 at 3:53 am, 1andrew said:
Uh,he's not gonna have kids,HE'S GAY! Did ya miss that part?
Sonia, It's spelled Moron,not Moran.Hope that helps.
dreamactgo, it's tongue I think you meant in that 1st post,hope that helps
Habla Englase Much?
December 10, 2010 at 4:25 am, SayYesToDreamAct said:
Get the facts straight please! They will pay the same amount Americans pay for college!!! Right now, they pay out of state rates at the state they live in!!! If they choose to go to college in another state, then they will have to pay out of state tuition like Americans do!!!! It was not their choice to break the law. They came here as minors! They came here because their parents brought them here!
December 10, 2010 at 6:42 am, its time said:
i dont understand why all the stupid arguments about not letting people get their education. this country was founded by immigrants, i would have no fucking problem hearing arguments from native Americans who are the only ones that have the real right over this land. hearing all this fucking brainless statements from people whose family down the line were just like us( immigrants) just makes me mad, hopefully if one day our we are recognized for our hard work we don't become like this red neck fuckers! i could sit here and write facts about why they don't us here but the real reason is plain and simple…. we have some really talented and smart people and that just scares them.
December 10, 2010 at 10:13 am, and? said:
I am gay, I am illegal, I would rather help America and its economy than live the rest of my live with a same sex partner. We LGBT community are alright. We illegal community look for something better.
December 10, 2010 at 2:21 am, jonfrank said:
the man who wrote this is a bigot and I quote “blunt pin will be replaced with a jagged, rusty blade, followed by a Martha Washington wig making contest, all to be scheduled after a night of sleep deprivation and a thin six-day diet of Four Loko and craisins” this man will never understand what it means to be discriminated against
December 10, 2010 at 2:24 am, Dianna Basio said:
I think the DREAM ACT should pass. Who gives a flip if they're “illegal.” I'm a citizen, I was born in the U.S., but I know very smart students who are illegal and want to have a great future and career. Many of the illegals have worked their butts off and struggled to give their families what they need. All who oppose the DREAM Act are just selfish and only think of them selves. AND AS FOR YOU 'CITIZEN', The reason GLBTs can't marry is because God didn't create us to marry the same sex. He didn't build man for man, or woman for woman. They're also breaking the law. SO SHUSH YO FACE! ><
December 10, 2010 at 5:59 am, Will Bertolino said:
So true!
December 10, 2010 at 6:32 am, Franco Torres said:
How are you so sure your not being selfish yourself?
don't get me wrong I support the Dream Act 100% and i am in no way attracted to anything but the ladies, yet I feel your being completely ironic in this statement by calling anti-dreamers selfish and completely bashing glbts euqal rights. ALL HUMANS HAVE THE RIGHT TO EQUAL LIFE AND OPPORTUNITIES
people who speak like you make me fear that if they do pass the dream act the immigrants will become just as ignorant as most citizens.
December 10, 2010 at 8:47 pm, Dianna Basio said:
I wasn't being selfish. I'm not judging GLBTs. I was just stating facts.
December 11, 2010 at 4:29 am, Guest1234567 said:
Stating your stupid, X-tian facts.
December 10, 2010 at 3:03 pm, Zodapop said:
Be and let be. How can you expect people to not judge illegals, but support them instead, when you judge gays? Who are you to judge anybody? We have to respect people and that means be and let people be. That's the beauty of life. You say that other people are selfish? other people may think that you are selfish as well, when it comes to keeping gays from doing what makes them happy. Aren't we all creatures of God; good or bad… it all depends how you look at things.
December 10, 2010 at 8:54 pm, Dianna Basio said:
I didn't judge GLBTs. I know people who are part of that community and they are actually very nice. I was stating facts.
December 11, 2010 at 4:28 am, Guest1234567 said:
You're not stating facts, you're stating YOUR facts, which YOU believe. And I'd bet anything you're a Catholic. GLBTs deserve every right every other human gets. THAT is a fact, you ignorant moron.
December 14, 2010 at 7:52 pm, Winston said:
yeah, you do know the other part of the act is letting them serve in the military right? (A stunt Rome pulled in its last desperate attempt to maintain its empire.) God created me to make sure that you and those like are aware of your ignorance, your obvious tendency to employ fallacies as arguments (“are just selfish and only think of themselves” really… been awhile since I heard and ad hominim justified with a dash of circular reasoning), and the evident double standards you hold. God didn't create us to go about forcing our views onto others either, but your down with that arntcha? SO GO READ A BOOK! ><
December 19, 2010 at 4:41 am, VETELECT said:
LITTLE GIRL GO PLAY WITH YOURSELF
December 10, 2010 at 2:30 am, 1andrew said:
Love,No, you won't be “Seeing me in jail”,you'll be there alone & crying for your momma like usual.Untill Bubba comes back & makes you his bitch again.Is that why you're a repeat offender?
December 10, 2010 at 2:58 am, no DREAM ACT!!! said:
i was born here and i've been paying for MY OWN tuition for the last 3yrs because i make TOO MUCH MONEY!!! we live paycheck to paycheck just like everyone else… and you mean to tell me that someone who is here illegally is going to get college for FREE!!! it's not our fault that people's families came here illegally, blame your parents!!! don't take more money from people who've been working their butts off all their life!!! give me a break people!!
December 10, 2010 at 3:07 am, Dianna Basio said:
Cry me a river…and drown in it! please! STFU!
December 10, 2010 at 3:15 am, sonia said:
college for free u fucking moran may ur the one that needs to go back to school if u dont know what the dream act is about dont talk shit we dont come here to get everything free we work our fucking ass off to pay for our things thank u berry much
December 10, 2010 at 2:54 pm, Deojr said:
Are you kidding me about you work your ass off? You seem to be speaking in general about the Illegals. You dont have the facts right. Illegal is illegal. Not only that but they are a total drain on the system. The prisons are full of them. They come here and produce drug crops. Bottom line is the tax payers are the ones who lose here. We work our ass off to try to make a better life for our self and we end up breaking our system for feel good people like you. The hell with that. I don't want to pay anything for them and I want this crap with spanish being on every thing. This is America, Not mexico.
December 10, 2010 at 4:42 pm, Jake said:
First of all they do work they asses off. I have friends that are illegal and their families work their asses off like no other. I illegal immigrants who commit crimes should be deported no questions ask. But children who has a good record no criminal background has worked hard which they do should be giving a chance.n As an american citizen I rather pay taxes for these young talented immigrants who will do good for our country, not for useless Americans not all but most of them who take advantage of our government and dont even put a damn effort into looking for job and yes there is plenty of jobs out there.
December 12, 2010 at 6:53 pm, Cinthias94 said:
Thank you for that comment its nice to know that there are some ppl that do see the fact that some of us do have good intenctions lots of motovation but very little tools
December 10, 2010 at 4:55 pm, Yummydevil002 said:
Not everyone who is illegal is a Mexican or even from south or central america.. And not all of them are drug lords or even have a criminal record.. seriously, you need to get your facts right before you open your mouth
December 10, 2010 at 10:44 pm, Nana said:
LOL sucks for you!
December 11, 2010 at 6:44 am, relax baby... said:
hey sweety, pray for this country not going belly up. with your level of stupidity you probably wouldn't survive anywhere else.
December 14, 2010 at 2:24 pm, Dudoboy said:
You Idiot you Think That all Illegals are Mexicans, Open your eyes my friend!!!!!
December 14, 2010 at 8:01 pm, Winston said:
The prisons are full of them because they are counted in the prison census, which determines the size of the subsidies the private prisons receive. I wish people who looked at symptoms alone would just keep their mouths shut, it is you and yours who make evident the basic problem with democracy. I just hope when we are finally led off the cliff you dont bitch to much and remember you are responsible aswell.
December 16, 2010 at 3:39 pm, thisisamerica said:
In california the government checks your status as an american citizen before you are put into a cell, so they are deported before they get into jail, and most do have to work very hard in fields that you are too scared to put your fancy shoes in. the dream act is the right thing to do. you cannot force someone to move away from what they call home back to a country where they might not speak the same language. This is america the land of oppurtunity where man is free and you are allowed to be what you want. if you don't like that maybe you should move somewhere else like russia
December 10, 2010 at 3:31 am, Rollingross said:
Ignorant! please read about economic stadistic of ilegal in USA
December 10, 2010 at 4:26 am, Nell*da*rebel said:
who said they are going to go to school for free?! They have to pay tuition too! Please get your facts right before you say something.
December 10, 2010 at 4:27 am, Jake said:
No, they are not get college free, they work just as hard as you do to pay for their own tuition. Once the dream act passes, they'll be able to work and pay as they go along, just like you no difference.
December 10, 2010 at 4:36 am, SayYesToDreamAct said:
WHO SAID THEY ARE GETTING COLLEGE FOR FREE? THEY ARE NOT GETTING COLLEGE FOR FREE!!! RIGHT NOW THOSE WHO ARE ILLEGAL AND GOING TO COLLEGE PAY OUT OF STATE TUITIONS, THEY WILL BE ALLOWED TO PAY IN-STATE TUITIONS….THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GO TO COLLEGE FOR FREE!!!!!!!!
December 10, 2010 at 4:55 am, UFO said:
Well with all my respect I'm an Illegal alien who came to this country when I was a kid. Let me tell you that I worked extremely hard to earn 2 degrees: Civil Engineering and Construction Management Engineering. I paid for everything I earned.. no one “gave” me anything. I'm proud of my work and even though I'm illegal, I had the opportunity to work on design projects with firms in different projects like W.T.C., Xanadu indoor ski resource, Yankee stadium and so on… Just for the record let me tell you we all have an expiration date… “death”, and legal or illegal we all end up the same way. Just a reminder we can't take anything from this world when we die, no identification that labels us who we are in life. So why don't we come together and stop the nonsense and try to make this world a better place.
December 10, 2010 at 6:12 am, Joeluevan89 said:
well done
December 10, 2010 at 7:32 am, Sg1452 said:
It's because of people like you that I don't give up in school, I'm an undergraduate political science major and am striving to go to law school and specialize in immigration law.
I'm hispanic, and my dad was illegal at one point, he came here when he was 18 not speaking a word of english, no money, no connections and no home, he worked his ass off,then the Mistia Act was passed…now has his residency, 5 properties and a company in Mexico. I admire my dad for everything he did, and now I feel that the least I can do to make him proud is help people realize their American dream, just like he did.
December 10, 2010 at 3:21 pm, Zodapop said:
I agree with UFO. There's so much more in life than money and papers. I too have managed to succeed and now I own 2 big green companies that are changing my community, producing jobs and having a tremendous impact on the environment all over USA and the world. I didn't depend of documents to get to were I am now. I'm only 32 and have been able to accomplished a lot more than most people I went to school with. It's all about your dreams; it's all about you!
December 10, 2010 at 11:41 pm, Beecee151 said:
dude, you just said you are an illegal alien, You are breaking the law. You are a criminal.
December 11, 2010 at 1:10 am, UFO said:
Wow, thanks for remind me. What is your level of education my fellow legal person who follow the law and is perfect in life.
December 11, 2010 at 12:45 pm, Beecee151 said:
I was arrested in '99 for DUI after being followed from a bar and was arrested and plead guilty. I paid fines was on probation… did community service could not drive for a year etc. I am a citizen and committed a criminal act. I complied and am still a citizen. Not an illeagal alien. You are still a criminal
and always will be when this bill is over. If they pass it and Pres. signes it , should go straight to Federal court. Every country has laws, thats what makes them a country! Go to school in Canada or Mexico or Haiti or a European country…why wont it happen… Because they have laws that makes them countries. Sick of this PC bullshit.
December 11, 2010 at 8:34 pm, UFO said:
First of all, I never knowingly broke the law. I was brought here by my parents when I was a kid. I have only done good for this society which seems to look down on the those who only want to make this a better place. You on the other hand broke the law knowing full well that you were placing everyone one on the road in danger that night. That was your decision. You are a “criminal” by choice and will also be one for the rest of your life. The only difference between you and me is the fact that I have only benefited those around me, by working and designing on multiple project for the state like highways, building structures, residential houses, public schools, etc. All of my work gives me great satisfaction to know that I have contributed to my community and YOUR country. SO please explain all of the great things you have done for your country. I would love to hear it. Don't lecture me on the rules and laws of other countries.. They are made by regular people, and whose to say that they know whats best for us. Those politicians make mistakes too. I pay taxes just like everyone else. So again, I only see the fact that I have done good for my community and you have acted carelessly and endangered yours.
December 13, 2010 at 5:14 am, Jake said:
Well said UFO, his choice of being a criminal
December 13, 2010 at 6:54 pm, Jake said:
Dude, it was the Parents fault, they broke the law not him, are you getting that, let me tell you again, DUDE, it was the PARENTS fault, not HIM!
December 14, 2010 at 8:03 pm, Winston said:
dude you just called someone a criminal for pursuing a good life. You are an asshole.
December 10, 2010 at 4:57 am, Sg1452 said:
Wow, you are a fucking idiot! Get your shit straight!!!Illegals pay for their own tuition! They get no help from the government!!And as for the people you claim have been working their butts off all their life in the U.S, they should have something by now, if they don't they obviously haven’t been working hard enough! My dad came here illegally when he was 18, he worked his ass off in jobs that “Americans” would not do, and now has his own company and 5 properties, and he also has his residency now. It's about what you do with the opportunity of living in this country, not how you got here! So FUCK YOU!!!
December 10, 2010 at 6:02 am, Will Bertolino said:
Well said!
December 10, 2010 at 6:42 am, xilaa said:
Well excuse you but i bet your dad was working in different times, production jobs in the united states and minimal nowadays and nobody ever hires as easily anymore your dad was lucky enough to work in times when you could walk into any restaurant/private business and get hired on the spot but that doesn't exist anymore kid. Which is why we desperately need the dream act to pass, besides not all illegals want to form their own business either. What about us aspiring engineers, physicists, psychologists, MD's..etc, its hard enough trying to get through college without any FAFSA and without a job out because no one wants the liability of hiring an illegal, and even if we do somehow miraculously get through the years of study it will be damned near impossible to find a decent job without legal status, so fuck you, ive been working hard my whole life as a student from fucking kindergarten to my current freshman year in college and shit only gets harder. I need this, i have a right to this.
December 10, 2010 at 9:03 am, Stephanie Garza Bitch said:
¡Mira, güerka estupida! ¡Obviamente no entendiste lo que quise decir! ¡Soporto el Dream Act totalmente! Yo, igual a ti, estoy en la universidad, y aspiro ser una abogada de imigración, para ayudar gente como tu!!!! Soy hispana pendeja, y mi papa era ilegal, no crees que quisiera que mas gente tenga esa misma oportunidad que gracias a mi papa hoy tengo!? Para tu información, mi mejor amiga es ilegal y va a la universidad, me parte el corazón pensar que ella no podrá tener un buen trabajo si esta ley no pasa. La historia de mi padre, me inspira, y motiva a ser una mejor persona y nunca olvidarme de donde vengo! Así que antes de hablar, informate! No es mi culpa que hay gente ignorante como tu, que no entienda cuando alguien los quiere defender!
December 10, 2010 at 11:59 am, 1angrytaxpayer said:
And I bet he cheats on taxes and has had years of getting paid under the table cash. That alone is reason enough to snub your family. Anchors away!!
December 10, 2010 at 3:29 pm, Zodapop said:
You are so immature. It is because of ignorance our country and its citizens and non citizens are living these circumstances. If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Talk to talk and walk to walk. Stop whining.
December 10, 2010 at 4:34 pm, Jake said:
Why not pay taxes for people who want to get an education, join the military.They'll do good for this country. Don't pay taxes to useless people (which you are to many useless Americans) who just take advantage of the government and getting free money and not even putting effort on finding a job, which there are plenty of jobs out there hiring, McCdonalds, burger king, Wendy's the list keeps on going.So pretty much your money is going into waster for that.
December 10, 2010 at 5:58 am, Will Bertolino said:
1. Read the act so you have your facts straight 2. Put yourself in these people's shoes; would you want to be in their place when you came here so young that for your whole life you thought you were a citizen just like the person sitting next to you in your class? 3. They're not taking the money from anyone, in fact they work way more than you do and pay double of what you pay for school because, just like yourself, they want to have a career 4. STF UP!!!
December 10, 2010 at 6:08 am, Cj said:
…and ive been paying out-of-state tuition out of my pocket as well, i couldnt qualify for any loans or bright future scholarship for obvious reason. Sorry you are too stupid to get scholarships and live paycheck to paycheck. Stop blaming everyone else for your failure of a life
December 10, 2010 at 8:18 am, Sg1452 said:
Well said!!
December 10, 2010 at 3:30 pm, Zodapop said:
Amen!
December 10, 2010 at 6:12 am, Nansy Soto said:
im sorry but i know people that have gone through college totally free and have plenty of money to pay for it! and u know what got them there !? their brain . just because u didnt have the brain to pull yourself together and gets those grades to get u in FREE doesnt mean someone else doesnt deserve that oportunity! and by the way who said it would be free!? they would just be able to pay instate tuition and after graduation have the opportunity to work legally! Pay taxes! hello?? maybe you should educate urself about the real dreal then start talking now wonder u have to pay for college!
December 10, 2010 at 9:55 am, Dreaming out Loud said:
You did not take advantage of what AMERICA had to give you my friend. I am illegal, and I am attending The University of Texas at Austin, believe me, if my country would give me the first class free education like the one America is giving me I would not be here. Give us a chance to pay America back everything It has given us. Is that not what you want? I have worked just like you have or even harder… The only difference is that you have the full privilege of being a “citizen” and I don't. It is a matter of courage, being illegal has not stopped me from doing what I want and getting to be who I want to be.
December 10, 2010 at 12:05 pm, dreambigflyhigh said:
Dude, read up what dream act is. It's not a free college for “illegal” bill.
It's merely a bill so they can even “attend” college. They still need to pay for. On top of that, they can't apply for any grants, which I think is reasonable.
December 10, 2010 at 3:12 pm, Zodapop said:
Nobody is taking your money. Stop watching fox news and if you really want to formulate a mature opinion, study the circumstances and then evaluate what you think is a problem; you would be surprised. Your legal status has nothing to do with the quality of person that you are. You think because you were born here you are better than other that didn't. It's all about what's in you mind and heart not some printed documents. The world is ours and there's so much more than this little things we choose to get lost in. The beauty of life is the light that each and every one of us carries within. Inform your self of things that ate worth knowing. Don't let government bullshit run your opinion. We are all citizens of the world and that's our gift from nature.
December 11, 2010 at 3:50 am, UFO said:
I agree 100% with you. I wish everyone will see our point of view and understand what life is all about.
December 14, 2010 at 8:12 pm, winston said:
Hey here is the catch. The illegal immigration “issue” is a smokescreen. There big players are making moves they would prefer no one paid attention too and Illegal Immigration (as well as gay marriage and a number of other things) are the decoys they employ. I thought America was supposed to receive with open arms the downtrodden… It would make sense if she did, after all who would be most conscience of her importance than those whom have known oppression. As an American, I am ashamed that myself and my fellow Americans for accepting this perverted image as the real thing. I am aware I bear the responsibility for it, but I don't really know how to make things better.
December 10, 2010 at 4:47 pm, Jake said:
For the 10th time, they are NOT getting college education for FREE! they have to work just as hard as you do. I know for sure they will. Yes I agree blame the parents! not the CHILDREN! they need a chance people.
December 10, 2010 at 7:50 pm, Jargal O said:
you moron. Where the hell are you getting your information from??? illegals are going to college for FREE??? are you kidding me? where the hell did you get that from?
illegals have to pay for college jackass. They can't get grants such as a pell grant or any type of welfare from the government. Only thing illegals can get is a loan WHICH THEY MUST PAY BACK.
Stop spreading lies or stuff you think is right in your head. It's like when people are against Obama b/c they think he is a Muslim. Such ignorance.
Pass the Dream ACT NOW.
December 11, 2010 at 12:20 am, B9030w said:
Let them pay for college in their OWN country……!
CLOSE THE BORDERS!
December 10, 2010 at 9:28 pm, Grissel said:
u my friend are an idiot….no where in the bill that we are trying to get passed does it state that the dream act will give these teens/young adults free tuition. What this bill states is that if given the opportunity to attend college by giving them a legal status…(u need a social…remember filling out ur application…it was something u needed to provide in case u dont recall). the bill states that u must either persue higher education by enrolling in a college or university(not for free) or u must enlist in the military for at least 2 years of service to retain a legal status….may i mention that some natural born citizens arent doing either! also if fafsa(the government assistance) didnt help u its because u were in fact making too much money…i know becase it happened to me and i too am just a struggling college student sucks but what can we do…as of right now these kids arent getting any assistance so whats ur excuse for not getting the help? I mean none of these “aliens” have the opportunity to apply for tuition assistance right now and ur still being denied so what's ur excuse….u cant blame everything on “aliens”….get a grip.
December 11, 2010 at 5:11 am, Jesus Anival said:
fyi, many illegal people pay taxes as most Americans do, and if they had the chance to be in America legally they, of course, too would pay taxes like every other american is obligated to.
December 11, 2010 at 6:27 am, Ivisbulnes08 said:
Im sorry but with my respect to you, but we are not asking money for college at all, we are only asking for a for a working permit or a residency so we can continue or start our carrer I'm soory but you need to get more info on what the “Dream Act” is all about. I'm fixing to graduate with a bacherlor in Teaching and I have also work my BUTT off to pay for my tuition because my parents brought me here because our country doesn't have what the USA have. I'm not trying to make you mad or being disrespectful to you, I'm sorry if i did, I'm just trying to give my point before you start judging. I'm not trying to change your mind either you have the right to think whatever you want, again, you need to gather more info on what the “Dream Act” really is.
December 11, 2010 at 6:39 am, relax baby... said:
seems you pay taxes and tuition and you run your mouth without knowing the facts about the proposed law.
there is no free tuition proposed on the Dream Act. it actually states out of state tuition for the immigrants.
just excuses trying to hide the fact you are a racist…
December 12, 2010 at 6:44 pm, Cinthias94 said:
look you need to see what the dream act really is we do not go to school for free we dont get nothing for free ya I understand that you may work really had to get your money, to get your school, and to get where you are today and your going to get in the future but we have to work 2, 4, and even up to 8, times more they all of you do because thats how much more we have to pay to get collage … so when you think your working hard just think about what working hard really is … answer me this at what age did you start working because i started to work what i was 8 years old i pay my taxes I still work today end well contumin working till the day i die……
December 14, 2010 at 2:20 pm, Dudoboy said:
You know what is funny illigal imigration is not new, the natives called it “white People”………………………………………………….
December 31, 2010 at 6:22 am, Medrano9 said:
youre a fuckin stupid ignorant fuck!! theres plenty of illegals that pay taxes and yet the goverment will still take there tax money so some lazy fucks that dnt wana go get a job will live off that so how about these citizens that sit on the side of the road askin for money all day dnt go look for a job instead of bummin of illegals..and i also pay my own tuition its fuckin hard so dnt act like its so easy and ur mr big shot u idiot
December 10, 2010 at 3:23 am, marcos said:
Arriba Mexico cabrones!!!!
December 10, 2010 at 3:43 pm, Zodapop said:
Es Viva Mexico cabrones!… y Arriva se escribe con “V”
December 10, 2010 at 3:46 am, April_freelon said:
I don't really like the guy that wrote this. I was wanting to learn more about it for Spanish class tomorrow but, all I've learned is how selfish and inconsiderate some “Americans” can be. I mean these kids can't help they were brought here that's like if my parents robbed a bank when I was three and when I turn 18 the law decides that I should go to jail for it. These kids shouldn't pay for something their parents did. Education is education, everyone should have the best education. And this isn't just about Mexicans it's about people from all other countries. America has always been in the forefront of jumping into other countries and trying to make them see that our way is best but yet we're refusing education to students just because of where their parents happen to be from or where they were born. Yeah everything is two pronged, there will be negatives but nothing is ever going to make everyone happy. So just deal with it. I don't see what the big deal is. It's not like “Americans” won't get an education as well.
December 10, 2010 at 4:04 am, un.doc.u.men.ted said:
all of these people seriously need a heart. i wish you could be the one suffering through this so you know the hurt & discrimination one has; where no freedom is given. [talk about this being the country of dream, the country of diversity, of IMMIGRANTS] let me guess where you're family is from poland.! -everyone was an immigrant once in their live.! you monsters
December 10, 2010 at 4:10 am, HUMANS OR ANIMALS??? said:
chingue su madre el estupito que escribio esta chingadera y tambien los racistas culeros ONLY IN AMERICA LIKE ALWAYS “RACISM” it was black people……now hispanics…..everybody was born with the same rights as humans…….NOT ANIMALS
December 10, 2010 at 4:44 am, reality said:
So you are telling me that if my parents had brought me to another county, I have the right to demand a citizenship there? NO.
December 10, 2010 at 3:53 pm, Jake said:
IF your parents brought you here as a little baby and you had no saying in your parents breaking the law and you don't even know that your illegal until you apply for a job and they turn you down because you have no papers?WHat a great way to find out that your an illegal. I think you should be given a chance huh? You don't demand it, you work for it there is a difference.
December 10, 2010 at 4:46 am, Abby said:
While I believe that everyone should enjoy the freedoms of America, it's not fair that these people get a free ride into being citizens while there are so many others out there that actually did it legally. It's not fair that illegal immigrants that broke our laws coming here should get special treatment from all of the others who come into the United States every year. I agree that many immigrants come here for a better life, but they should do it legally, unfortunately we don't put enough effort towards border control, and we must remember that with some illegal immigrants comes illegal substances. All we can do is ask God what the right thing to do is. But our country is now trying to flush God out of everything, when God was the very One that made our country great.
December 10, 2010 at 6:46 am, its time said:
how would you feel if you had no rights and your opinion and you were considered a criminal just because your great grand parents were from Italy or wherever the hell your from.
December 10, 2010 at 4:12 pm, Jake said:
Abby I know how you feel, I felt the same thing for awhile, in fact I was against the dream act for awhile but the more the I though about it. It makes since. These kids are not getting a free ride into being a citizen, if they dream act passes they have to work hard. Yes I agree they broke the law. but people don't realize it was the PARENTS that broke the law not the childrens. They had no saying in this what so ever. the parents should be punish for what they did to their child, bringing them into this country illegally. It must have been heart crushing when they were old enough to get a job and they apply but get turned down for not have papers? Just put yourself in their shoes for once, and just imagine the things they have to go through, who had no saying in this.
December 10, 2010 at 4:46 am, beez said:
whats wrong with working legally and going to school in Mexico? I bet you money let just (1) child that was brought here illegally or born here (in my opinion) illegally decide they want to pursue this issue in Mexico and just watch and see what happens. You guy really need to get a clue. This is crazy. I LOVE all people but right is right and wrong is wrong. dont tell me about american wont pick tomatoes, wash dishes, pour concrete, hang drywall etc etc. Thing are getting to a place where americans will wish to have a jo like that… my best friend pump SHIT for a living. PLEASE this is a crazy plot to make americans look bad, stupid and insensative but WHO CARES about AMERICA any more. You bitch about AMERICANS caring about AMERICANS and AMERICA ? you have ALL lost your minds.
December 10, 2010 at 4:00 pm, Jake said:
First of all I don't know if you been keeping track of the news and whats happening in Mexico with all the drug cartels killing people, I'm pretty sure parents do not want to send their children to school knowing they are endangered everyday by cartels. Yeah us Aamericans right now would take ANY job because our economy. But once our economy is stable again, how much you wanna bet some americans will leave the picking tomatoes, wash dishes, pouring concrete little jobs and want to go into a higher paying job because they won't lower wages. So whos gonna take over the picking tomatoes washing dishes? thats right the immigrants. just like always
December 10, 2010 at 4:55 am, TXgal said:
to many this is just a joke but when u live near the border like i do its not. i have attended school all my life with undocumented people and they are no different from you and me. we have the same clothes and the same dreams. the only thing that makes us different is a piece of paper wit letters and numbers. these people are good people that work a million times harder than us americans ever will because they come into this country with more desire than ever. so i dearly hope that this act is passed. que viva la raza!
December 10, 2010 at 8:17 am, Sg1452 said:
I'm so relieved that theres still people like you. This is the land of opportunity..why are we denying it to them? My dad was an illegal once, I would be going through all this if the Mistia law hadn't passed years ago and given my dad his residency. I'm Pro Dream Act (:
December 10, 2010 at 5:01 am, Jake said:
As an American citizen I support the Dream act. We want to have talented young people in this country to go to college and serve in military. I really don't understand why some people are against it. People who complain about having to worry about the illegals taking their jobs, I'm sorry to say this but some of us Americans need to get off our lazy ass and quit getting free money from our government, so called “unemployment”. Geez guys they are lots of jobs hiring people everyday, McCdonalds, burger king, Taco bell I can keep on going for ever.
PEOPLE, I know the PARENTS broke the law, not the CHILDREN. the parents should be punish for what they did not the CHILDREN. Get that through that thick skull of yours they be giving a chance to live their dreams. Another thing. Dream act or not Dream act many new illegal immigrants will try to cross the borders not matter what, they are not going to give up. The Constitution has flaws. We shouldnt throw away something logical or useful or makes sense because the constitution says so. Laws can be wrong. Our constitution can be wrong. Just cause somethings illegal doesnt make it always wrong. I bet our founding fathers never thought that this situation would arise, and you know what happens when the constitution is wrong, its called an amendment. The constitution isnt taken seriously anymore. If you can be guarenteed the right to privacy to have an abortion despite right to privacy not being in the constitution, then i dont think that document has as much authority as it once did. But i guess taxpayer money can just go to useless american on welfare instead of the bright illegal getting a college education so he can get a job and do some good in this country. I guess that makes too much sense.
These people remind me of the greatest generation. the ones that said 'dont give me welfare, give me a job' FDR gave them one and the rest is history. How much you wanna bet most of the illegals know more about our own country and constitution better than some of us so called “Americans”.
December 10, 2010 at 6:13 am, reality said:
So do these children who weren't born here not belong to another country? They do.
December 10, 2010 at 12:07 pm, dreambigflyhigh said:
If these kids go back to their home country, they have nothing.
We Americans donate so much money to people outside of the country, and yet we can't even help these very kids who grew up in America. Don't look at them as illegals.
They're “Americans” just like you. The only mistake they ever made was that they were born in another country.
December 10, 2010 at 2:06 pm, UFO said:
We are all born in the same place that I call home which is planet earth
December 11, 2010 at 4:48 am, reality said:
Well maybe the parents should consider the consequences of their law breaking actions. If I were doing anything that put my child's future in jeopardy on a federal level, I sure as hell would think twice about it. But do these illegals do that? No they don't. Good moral values huh?
Maybe we need to say “No, if you bring a child here, they will NOT be a citizen.” That way, maybe the traffic flow of endangered children futures will slow down. But if we say “Ya, sure sneak your child over, they can be a citizen.”, they will POUR in even harder and faster than it's happening now. And we think we have a problem with this now?! And guess what also comes along with that poor child; illegal parents who will still be nothing but illegal.
December 10, 2010 at 3:41 pm, Jake said:
Yes they were born in another country, but they were raised in America. Some don't even know their own country. They came here at age 3. America is their country. Like I said before, people give these young talented children a CHANCE!
December 11, 2010 at 1:20 am, UFO said:
Well said!
December 14, 2010 at 8:18 pm, Winston said:
not well said, why should only the “young and talented” have a chance, Are you an elitist? i dont think so but the way you said that it seems as though you are.
December 10, 2010 at 7:31 pm, Jargal O said:
No they don't “reality”… This is their HOME. America is where these kids belong.
Pass the Dream ACT
December 10, 2010 at 5:19 am, dream act will pass said:
honestly people arguing about the DREAM ACT not passing are just ignorant and selfish people. im more than sure that everyone one of us either have a family memeber that are illegal or know someone that is close to them that is illegal. god made us all thesame and he would want us to get along. why are americans trying to be racism and no let illegals have thesame rights im sure if they were in mexico they would want any kind of bill right to pass. we mexicans do a lot of jobs that some of you guys wont even want to do because its either “gross” or you just cant take doing that job or maybe its just to hard. i am a mexican that came to this country 8 years ago i have been going to school im graduating next year and i want to go to college keep my education and become a nurse but it might be hard just by the fact i dont have a piece of paper! i have always had good grades and thats helping me but why are people hating about the dream act?
December 10, 2010 at 6:03 am, Joeluevan89 said:
Guys this its not about fighting or see who is right or wrong. This is about this country. This is about been a United Nation, no a discrimination place or race combat between Nations or skin colors. Please get a better understanding of the real human being that we all are.
December 10, 2010 at 6:06 am, Sunny said:
I'm illegal and curruntly attending on CC. I came US when i was in jonior high.
Because I had talent at art since i was a baby, I studied art so hard to get in art school. During high school year, I recived a lot of prizes from art competitons including competiton that senetor Martin. J. Gold held. I won over 10 times during highschool years. However, I go to local CC now. Although a lot of art school, such as SVA, Pratt, MICA.. offered me full scholarships when i was in senior year, I could not get in ANYWHERE because I did not have green card. All of my friends who were studying art together got in art school now. While they are enjoying campus life with supporting from government, I'm working as waitress after school to earn tuition for next semester. Moreover, when I back to home after work, my parents always push me to marry to citizen to get green card even though I dont want marry yet.. For me, DREAM ACT is only hope for my future. Everynight I have dream to go to art school and study art without worry of tuition…I pray and pray this bill will be passed..
December 10, 2010 at 10:26 pm, No.to.backdoor.amnesty said:
Good grief! Why is it that these obvious illegals posting here feel that American taxpayers owe them ANYTHING? You should feel grateful that we've already spent billions of dollars in tax money educating illegals from K – 12th (thanks to a government that just can't seem to protect our borders, not by choice). Now you want MORE? You think it is OK that American children's needs should be shoved into a corner so you can live your DREAM? How very selfish of you!!! Anybody saying this bill wouldn't cost the American taxpayers BILLIONS more obviously have not boned up on the financial ramifications of it's passage. Not to mention granting citizenship would allow these people to sponsor their entire immediate family to come to America and leach off our current system. THIS is why there are limitations to the number of immigrants that are allowed citizenship on a yearly basis. We do not have the resources to support all of these people coming from third world cesspools to “better” themselves on our dime. Why does that always become the American taxpayer's problem? Why aren't you trying to better your OWN country so you don't have to come here and leach off of others? Sure – illegals come over here and work – they ALSO don't pay taxes, leach off our social systems, and then crow to the high heavens that they are able to save all this money? I'm sure I could stockpile a load of money if I didn't have to pay taxes, or pay for medical care, or pay for car insurance, etc., etc., etc.
Sunny – you are a shining example of what the majority of illegals trying to benefit from this act are all about. You say you are attending a community college, yet you can't even spell or formulate a sentence to save your life. Worse – your parents obviously STILL have no respect for our laws and regulations by even SUGGESTING that you marry a citizen to gain your “green card”. The fact that you AND your parents are still here shows your continued disregard for our laws. I am literally sickened by all of your attitudes. Countries have borders – that's just the way it is. Get in line behind all the OTHER people trying to gain citizenship in lieu of these back-door amnesty programs, and THEN I will respect your efforts.
December 14, 2010 at 9:14 am, myvoice said:
Aren't you neglecting the fact that you speak as if you knew the case of all the immigrants that you are referring to as coming “from third world cesspools to “better” themselves on our dime.” First of all, many do not want your dime. Many pay taxes. Many just want to be able to do the right thing. Many do not create excuses such as “I'm sure I could stockpile a load of money if I didn't have to pay taxes, or pay for medical care, or pay for car insurance, etc., etc., etc. ” I pay for tuition. I pay for medical insurance. I pay my taxes, car insurance, you name it. And on top of it all, I get straight A's. I just want an opportunity to be present here and contribute more than frankly my American friends do to their own country, and as they agree, without feeling like the outsider that I am not. So there, you are the poster child of PREJUDICE. You do not know all of them, and the kids that qualify for this Act have to earn it by contributing and proving worthy of the privilege.
I am not trying to better my own country?
Do you even know what you are asking? have you thought about what it means for someone that has no idea what that country is like to go back with little to no knowledge of it's culture? Not to mention being alphabetized in English and having to start from scratch on an education process. Well if humanity isn't your cookie, you might want to think about that they have crossed your path and probably impacted your life, and you don't even know it. They are people, who have dreams and do not want a hand out.
December 16, 2010 at 12:13 am, No.to.backdoor.amnesty said:
LOL – Let's start with this accusation of “poster child of prejudice”.
I do not rely on sentiment (or pity stories such as yours) to fuel my dissatisfaction in regards to the number of illegal immigrants coming here expecting to better their lives on the backs of the American taxpayers, but rather look at the recorded *facts* of financial and social ramifications of said immigration. Your entitlement attitude is literally atrocious! Although the “sob stories” (and let's face it, that's all they are) are compelling, that does not negate the fact that you and others like you are knowingly here illegally. Basically, pretty much every one of you posting on this thread blame the American public for not wanting to help you (calling us racists or in your case prejudiced), when in reality there is absolutely no reason for Americans to WANT to reward illegal behavior. If you are looking for someone to blame, that blame rests solely on your parent's shoulders. NOT MY PROBLEM. My desire to help others in need apply to those that do NOT break the law. There are literally millions of people on this earth living in poverty that need help WAY more than you. What makes YOU so special? America can NOT shoulder the burden of all these poor countries. We can help some, but by no means should the responsibility of helping all these people lie on the backs of American taxpayers. This is where personal responsibility comes in (look that one up if you need to). Not to mention back door amnesty (which is all the DREAM act is) is a direct slap in the face to all our nation's legal immigrant population that ALSO worked very hard to come here the RIGHT way. So “prejudice” has absolutely nothing to do with it. Expecting people that break the law to take responsibility for their own actions – yes. Let's move on to the “facts” portion of today's post…
*FACT: There are an average of 10,000 illegals PER DAY that try to cross our borders into America – over 3 million per year. Roughly 1/3 of those are caught, and many will immediately try again. Half of those remaining will stay in the U.S.A. as residents – which equate out to 3,500 per day.
*FACT: MOST illegals (and I am still relying on fact rather than emotional statements such as yours that “many” pay for themselves) are working in lower paying jobs, and are renting houses or apartments – frequently sharing with other illegal families to cut down on costs, thus cutting drastically the amount of taxes they pay. Noting that most localities fund public schools through real estate taxes, this puts the brunt of the burden of education for illegal alien children squarely on the back of the taxpayers.
*FACT: MOST pay little or NO state or federal income taxes, and because they live generally frugal lifestyles (spending their own money), they pay little in sales taxes as well. The meager taxes they DO pay come nowhere NEAR to paying for the costs to educate their children.
*FACT: U.S. Census figures for 2008 show the national average of costs per student for grades K-12 at $12,028. per YEAR. That equates out to $144,336. per student for a K-12 education. Shall we send you a bill for this?
*FACT: Aprox. 20% of Texas students (where I live) are here illegally – getting their educations off the backs of the Texas taxpayer. Do the math. Since there were a recorded 63,000 children born to illegal mothers here in Texas last year, you can see where those numbers are going. OH and as a side note, MOST illegals in Texas do not have driver's licenses much less insurance.
*FACT: Moving away from *just* the education costs – let's use Texas again as an example – 25% of the Texas budget is now being spent on illegal aliens and the children of illegal aliens to the tune of 45 billion dollars a year for a combination of education, social services, and incarceration (our crime rate has skyrocketed in my area).
I could literally go on and on with what illegal residents actually cost – not JUST financially, but also of lives lost or permanently altered by the damage that has been done to date. YOU however, live in your own little bubble, only noting what a travesty it is that you are currently unable to live YOUR dream with absolutely NO thought whatsoever as to how it affects other LEGAL citizen's rights or pocketbooks. I would describe your entitlement attitude as 100% selfish…but hey – what do I know. I'm just one of the prejudiced “A-holes” that have been paying for your K-12 free ride (that's sarcasm in case you were wondering).
December 10, 2010 at 6:30 am, Franco Torres said:
How are you so sure your not being selfish yourself?
don't get me wrong I support the Dream Act 100% and i am in no way attracted to anything but the ladies, yet I feel your being completely ironic in this statement by calling anti-dreamers selfish and completely bashing glbts euqal rights. ALL HUMANS HAVE THE RIGHT TO EQUAL LIFE AND OPPORTUNITIES
people who speak like you make me fear that if they do pass the dream act the immigrants will become just as ignorant as most citizens.
December 10, 2010 at 8:24 am, Sg1452 said:
I'm actually really hurt by your comment, you got me totally wrong! I am Pro Dream Act!! I'm going to college aspiring to become a lawyer and specialize in immigration, to help people like you!! My best friend is illegal, and in college! It hurts me to think that if this act doesn't pass, she won't be able to reach her full potential! The story about my dad is inspiring to me, and his struggles motivate me to be a better person and never to forget where I came from.
I'm sorry you're ignorant and took it the wrong way!!
December 10, 2010 at 12:14 pm, dreamBIGflyHIGH said:
Dream Act should pass.
It's a light that can bring a lot of kids out of their darkness.
It's not fun to be illegal. No one will understand, except me, I came here at 10. Not as young as others.
I remeber when I first came, the only English I knew was A B C. But ever since the day I landed in America, I knew I had to be able to speak English. And thx to America for providing the Education. But that is just when I learn that I was an illegal immigrant all along.
On top of my illegal status is another nightmare. I can't even apply for legal status, because I was considered “illegal en dtering the country” therefore I cannot apply to get legalized. This puts in no way out. I'm about to graduate in May. After trying so many interviews, I told them the truth that I was illegal. And I was turn down by the employers.
What have I done wrong, but because I was born in the wrong place.
God if you were so kind, what did I do wrong that you made life so difficult for me. I see my friends who are naturally born citizens, I'm very jealous, because they can call themselves American, and yet deep down everyday I'm nothing.
God if you see this, will you bless me and all other illegals like me. “Pass the Dream Act” Please.
December 11, 2010 at 4:27 am, Donald Ohler said:
I think you need to get your facts right about how much Illegal immigrants cost the United States to educate them. Here are the Federal statistics as to what it is costing the American people.
Using the U.S. INS statistics on how many illegal immigrants are residing in each state and the U.S. Dept of Education's current expenditure per pupil by state, the Federation for American Immigration Reform, known for its anti-illegal alien stance, has estimated cost of educating illegal alien students was as follows:[24]
State Illegal Alien Students
California $3,220,200,000
Texas $1,645,400,000
New York $1,306,300,000
Illinois $834,000,000
New Jersey $620,200,000
For all 50 states $11,919,900,000
Spending for public education of illegal immigrant children in K-12 public education in Minnesota for 2003-2004 was a total of $78.76 million to $118.14 million. [25]
For the same time period, total spending in New Mexico at the state and local levels for illegal immigrant schoolchildren was about $67 million [26]
During April 2006, Standard & Poor's analysts wrote: “Local school districts are estimated to educate 1.8 million undocumented children. At an average annual cost of $7,500 (averages vary by jurisdiction) per student, the cost of providing education to these children is about $11.2 billion.”[27]
Illegal immigrants who have attended school in California for three years are eligible for reduced in-state tuition for public colleges.[28]
Effect on Medicaid
Reuters reported that illegal immigrants, as well as legal immigrants in the country less than five years, generally are not eligible for Medicaid. However, they can get Medicaid coverage for health emergencies if they are in a category of people otherwise eligible, such as children, pregnant women, families with dependent children, elderly or disabled individuals, and meet other requirements. The cost of this emergency care was less than 1% of Medicaid costs in North Carolina from 2001–2004 and the majority was for childbirth and related complications.[29] USA Today reported that “Illegal immigrants can get emergency care through Medicaid, the federal-state program for the poor and people with disabilities. But they can't get non-emergency care unless they pay. They are ineligible for most other public benefits.”[1] In 2006, the Oklahoma Health Care Authority estimated that it would spend about $9.7 million on emergency Medicaid services for unauthorized immigrants and that 80 percent of those costs would be for services associated with childbirth.[30]
[edit] Insured vs. Uninsured
The Pew Hispanic Center estimated in 2005 that 59% of the nation's illegal immigrants are uninsured, compared with 25% of legal immigrants and 14% of U.S. citizens. Illegal immigrants represent about 15% of the nation's 47 million uninsured people — and about 30% of the increase since 1980.[1]
[edit] Effect on hospitals
Uncompensated care generates a significant financial burden on hospital emergency departments and cost-shifting to insured and paying patients.[31] Because of the U.S. Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1986 (42 U.S.C. § 1395dd), most hospitals may not refuse anyone treatment for an emergency medical condition because of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay.
Data on health care costs for illegal immigrants are sketchy because hospitals and community health centers don't ask about patients' legal status. In California, a 2004 study by the Federation for American Immigration Reform put the state's annual cost at $1.4 billion. Similar studies in Colorado and Minnesota in 2005 came up with much smaller estimates: $31 million and $17 million, respectively. Texas estimated its 2006 costs at $1.3 billion. Because most illegal immigrants are relatively young and healthy, they generally don't need as much health care treatment as U.S. citizens. They account for less than 2% of national medical spending.[1]
The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) continues to bring injured and ill illegal immigrants to hospital emergency rooms without taking financial responsibility for their medical care.[32] Almost $190 million or about 25 percent of the uncompensated costs southwest border county hospitals incurred resulted from emergency medical treatment provided to illegal immigrants.[32]
At least two research studies have been done which attempt to discover the cost of health care for illegal immigrants by asking the illegal immigrants themselves.
A phone survey in which Alexander Ortega and colleagues at the University of California asked illegal immigrants how often they receive medical care reported that illegal immigrants are no more likely to visit the emergency room than native born Americans.[33]
A RAND study concluded that the total federal cost of providing medical expenses for the 78% illegal immigrants without health insurance coverage was $1.1 billion, with immigrants paying $321 million of health care costs out-of-pocket. The study found that illegal immigrants tend to visit physicians less frequently than U.S. citizens because they are younger and because people with chronic health problems are less likely to immigrate.[34][35]
[edit] Health risks
To reduce the risk of mortality from infection diseases in low-incidence areas, the main countermeasure has been the screening of immigrants on arrival.[citation needed] Prior to being awarded a green card, legal immigrants over the age of 15 must have a chest x-ray or skin test to check for tuberculosis.[36][37] Illegal immigrants are not screened in this manner.
These are facts you can find at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E…
So I would like to say this based on those facts, illegal immigrants are costing the American public Billions in tax payers money. I for one would rather take care of our own people before we have the burden of taking care of another countries problems. My parent who have worked very hard their entire life barley get enough to live on with social security and having to pay medicare. My father served in the armed forces and protected this country. I ask for what? So our government can give monies to people who break the law? There is a way to become a citizen. Deport all illegal immigrants back to their country and take care of our own. For those who want this Dream Act, you can pay for it. We should tax the heck out of your income so you can pay for this crap. I'm tired of paying for it.
December 11, 2010 at 10:22 am, here forever said:
you dont pay shit for the immigrants.. usually the immigrants pay for your sorry ass…they do jobs that people would charge double for, and imigrants are humble. when the ACT passes and these people show America what the true american dream is about, youll be in some KKK organization…and dont get your inaccurate “stats” from wikipedia.
December 11, 2010 at 8:21 pm, Donald Ohler said:
Hey Dumb ass “here forever”. Sounds like you need to be deported. It is people like you that have destroyed America so go back to that hole you came from or other country you came from. I have paid more then my share of taxes. I'm also in Law enforcement and I see first hand what these people do so you can shut the hell up. You don't any idea and the stats are correct. I would like to send “you” to the problem cities at the borderlines to America. Maybe the drug cartel can take care of you just because they can and we don't have enough law enforcement to take care of that problem. I hope you don't call yourself an American.
December 12, 2010 at 6:54 am, Donald Ohler said:
And one more thing “Here Forever”, may the illegal steal your social security number 20 times over and screw up your credit if you have any like they have done to millions of american people. Remember, they need one of those so they can pay taxes like you say they do.
December 12, 2010 at 5:08 pm, UFO said:
There is something call TIN numbers that illegal Immigrants use. If you don't believe please visit Social security or look online and educate your self before making statements like that. The people who steal your social security and credit card information are Citizen who happen to be criminals. No one can ruin your credit except you.
December 12, 2010 at 5:52 pm, Donald Ohler said:
Wow really? Are you that far out of touch? There is case after case of Identity theft by illegals and they do ruin peoples credit. You really need to educate your self. I can't tell you how many cases over the past 12 years I have seen where peoples social security numbers are stolen and used by illegals that ruin these victims credit. It takes years to fix because the victim has to prove that they did not use the credit cards that were opened by using their social security number. So i guess you think its okay to break the law? I am all for people who want to make better life but they have to do it right. The legal way. Our prison system is full of illegals who have broken the law. You are really out of touch with what is going on and I am really confused as to why.
December 13, 2010 at 6:31 pm, Jake said:
Yes I'm with you there. But you need to understand it was the PARENTs broke the law. punish and the deport the parents as far as I'm concerned. But why would you want to punish children who had no saying in this. Illegals who committed crime deport them too I Dont care. But where talking about children here who want serve in the military or further their education. And you want to say no to these young talented immigrants. There immigrants who want to put their lives at risk to protect this nation and your family as well from other enemies. And you still don't want them. As far as illegals stealing identity, Deport them too, those are trouble makers. But like i said were talking about children who want a chance.
December 13, 2010 at 6:45 pm, Jake said:
I rather pay taxes for illegal immigrants who will actually do good for this country, rather then paying taxes to worthless Americans, who take advantage of our own government and get free money from so called unemployment. There are lots of jobs out there hiring. Many Americans dont even put effort into looking for a job. IF you cant get hire, thats your fault. you probably dont have the brains for it. And you know what? I have illegal friends who want to become law enforments. I'm pretty sure they will be a great help to your Law enforcement problem. And another thing, As far as I'm concerned, some of these illegals are just as American as you are. I bet you, They know more about our country, our constitution, how our government works and some came even name every single President of the United states. Believe me I have witness that and its incredible how much they know. It amazes me people like you don't think these “illegals” are not American. Some are just as American as you are.
December 11, 2010 at 6:56 pm, UFO said:
Nice work of copy paste
December 11, 2010 at 5:02 am, reality said:
Blame your parents. It is not OUR fault that all YOUR parents brought you over here and did not care whatsoever about what would happen to you in the future. We should NOT have to clean up that mess. The parents should consider the consequences of their law breaking actions and not jeopardize their child's future on a federal lever! Why is this OUR problem now?!
December 11, 2010 at 10:27 am, here forever said:
oh its not a problem you just make it a problem. when it passes ill be making fun of all the ignorance you brought to the table…
December 10, 2010 at 12:41 pm, Kiran said:
What abt people who are legal immigrant paying taxes & waiting indefinitely for over 9 years,does anybody bother to think of their plight.
December 10, 2010 at 7:53 pm, Jargal O said:
Their situation is a different one. Dream Act students will not affect them in any way. It's a totally different process. Remember if the Dream Act passes today, it will be until 2024 that these kids can be made permanent citizens.
This is a 14 year process.
Pass the Dream ACT NOW
December 10, 2010 at 2:26 pm, rick said:
this is awesome, thank God someone had enough sense to stop this horrible peice of legislation. we dont need to be giving criminals anything but a cold cell. what kind of message does this convey to the millions who immigrated to america legally? that they wasted their time? that their struggle was nothing?
giving amnesty to these criminals will only cause more chaos. the next couple million who cross into america illegally will go around demanding the same.
i guess all we need is a sign saying its racist and they cave, right?
December 10, 2010 at 3:04 pm, sunbaby said:
US “ILLEGAL” JUST WANT TO STUDY AND BE SOMEONE BETTER IN LIFE UNLIKE MOST AMERICANS THAT TAKE THIS FOR GRANTED AND DONT EVEN STUDY THAT HARD. ALL YAH DO IS WAIT FOR FOOD STAMPS AND WELFARE WE WANT THE REAL THING NOT WAIT FOR GOVERMENT ASSISTANCE. WE WANT A REAL JOB AND WE ARE WELLING TO WORK HARD FOR IT. IM A VERY EDUCATED PERSON UNLIKE MOST PEOPLE I SEE JUST WASTING THEIR TIME GETTING “HIGH” I PREFER TO EDUCATE MYSELF INSTEAD GO DREAM ACT
December 10, 2010 at 4:44 pm, Buritica1992 said:
People dont understand they dont know how hard it is having to take the bus at 7 AM to go to class. They get everything for free we dont even have the right to a job or to drive a car. They get scholarships for absolutely no reason why we are working our butts off to get a 4.0 GPA and we are ineligible. I came here when i was 5 years old i know nothing more than the US. Its my home and its where ill stay. You people are scared we might take over all the major companies with our intelligence. This is why the economy is so bad because you guys have no idea what your doing. How about you step aside and let us handle things. =)
December 11, 2010 at 12:07 am, B9030w said:
No the economy is so bad because this country was flooded with a swell of ILLEGAL aliens who thought it would be great to just ignore all existing laws, and do as they damn well please.
That ends NOW !!
December 11, 2010 at 4:00 am, UFO said:
No, the economy is bad due to outsourcing. It is hard to find something made in the USA now. Therefore you should blame someone else.
December 11, 2010 at 5:12 pm, Thumper said:
The HATE AMERICA line is what causes you to lose support. So let me get this straight: Illegals have come to the US to save us from ourselves? You've got to be kidding. I graduated college with a 4.0, while raising a family and working full time and paying taxes, too. Go tell your story to somebody else, Pedro.
December 13, 2010 at 4:38 am, Jake said:
Yeah i'm pretty sure their are illegals who are just as smart as you. Who has a 4.0, while raising a family and working full time and paying taxes, yes some do pay taxes. Why would you reject them? other than them breaking law, which is not true ,their parents did that. not them.
December 10, 2010 at 7:38 pm, Jargal O said:
Polls show time and time again that MAJORITY of Americans DO SUPPORT THE DREAM ACT.
Of course the people who is opposing the Dream Act are mostly Republicans. But also an interesting fact is that majority of those who oppose it are OLDER people.
Overwhelmingly majority of Americans 40 and younger support the Dream ACT. Those who are educated support the Dream ACT (some college or college degrees.)
So what's the conclusion? Young educated Americans support the Dream ACT. Old, less educated people oppose it. Now are there young educated people that are against the Dream ACT? yes but Majority of them support it. Are there older less educated people who support the Dream ACT? yes, but more oppose it than support it.
We need to pass the Dream ACT b/c it's the right thing to do not only for these kids but for this country as well. We need more soldiers and we need more educated people.
Ignorance is what's destroying this country.
Pass the Dream ACT NOW.
December 11, 2010 at 12:04 am, B9030w said:
You mean as in “Ignorance of the Law?'
Which is why we should NOT pass the DREAM act.
If they are too stupid to understand/follow the existing law, what makes you think they will follow the rules of this new law ?
December 10, 2010 at 11:20 pm, AlmaG said:
What is your problem?!
December 11, 2010 at 2:13 am, reality said:
They want to help this country? It would help if we didn't have a massive flood of illegals. Immensely . If they want to live the american way, they should take their degrees and go help their other country. Maybe bring those countries up to standard with the effect being we won't have such a massive flood of illegals coming here.
Are we forgetting that we already let the children born of illegals have citizenship? 8% of the U.S. children actually. Numbers wise, that's absolutely ridiculous. We are the only country in the WORLD that does this! I think that's already extremely lenient. And there are proposals to change this too by the way.
December 13, 2010 at 4:33 am, Jake said:
Why would you want to send really talented young illegals into another country? American needs them. We need them to compete with other countries! are you kidding me! sending them to another country where American at the most need these talented people. Yes, if children of illegals were born in the us, they still should be citizens. This proposal shouldn't change not matter what.
December 11, 2010 at 4:16 am, Jorge_car said:
Too many fucken morans seriusly. College for free. Get your facts straight and stfu. Why waste your time posting nonsense if this doesn't affect you. Worry about your own problems!
December 11, 2010 at 5:34 am, A citizen said:
I have been reading these posts. It seems the people who want the DREAM Act passed use the most foul language. I can't believe they treat U.S. citizens who they need to support the Act the way they do. Citizens don't want to pay illegal aliens way which is understandable. Many people in this country are suffering without jobs, etc. What all of you are posting on the many sites on the internet are literally costing you your supposed dream! Think, who are the smart ones?
December 11, 2010 at 6:29 am, Raiden8 said:
The United States is not in a position to reject talent, because according to many studies the United States will not have enough college graduates to effectively compete against other countries. This is an extremely important opportunity for the United States that should not be overlooked. There are two choices SUPPORT THE DREAM ACT, MAINTAINING THE UNITES STATE AS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, OR NOT– MAKING THE UNITED STATES PREVIOUSLY GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD–
HEADLINES: UNITED STATES SECOND GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
HEADLINES: UNITED STATES THIRD GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
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DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN–SUPPORT DREAM ACT!!!
December 11, 2010 at 5:03 pm, 19rgm60 said:
The DREAM Act will only encourage future illegals to come to this country and bring their children. I suspect that Mexico can use some educated people to help turn their situation around. Buena Suerte.
December 12, 2010 at 5:08 am, Mvplayer10 said:
It is time for people to realize that illegal immigration does not take away jobs. Our own system has taken away jobs. Everything we buy is made in China, India, Indonesia, etc. Even the most American of the name brands such as Ralph Lauren, Fossil, and Calvin Klein among others are made somewhere else other than USA. I encourage you to take a look at the things you buy and need for everyday living and see where it is manufactured. The “illegal immigrants” are not taken jobs from citizens of this country
The DREAM Act will encourage students to pursue higher education. This is not about criminals jumping fences on our borders. Wake up America!! These students will contribute in tax dollars! You never know, they could end up being your doctor someday. No one has the right to say no to a person's DREAM!
All of us are native to another land. If you really don’t care about this Dream Act, stay the hell off the situation and go on with your life. Worry about being true to yourself & stop being ignorant. The only reason it bothers you is because your find it easier to blame others and create hate, rather then being courageous & deal with the situations, choices and ways of life you live. You’re not at peace & putting others down is the way you show it. America is build up of all immigrants.
December 12, 2010 at 5:18 pm, UFO said:
Well done. People seem to forget that unless you are from a Native American family, everyone is a product of immigration.
December 12, 2010 at 6:26 am, Mchava_10 said:
ok first of all ya people saying this is not mexico ya are right but saying this is america ya need to go back to world geography class america goes from canada to chile and stupid people saying immigrants get stuff for free when they do jobs that lazy ass white people dont want to do and all those white kids going to college on there parents money just to party and get laid while immigrants have to study and work two jobs for all the people saying we dont belong here think about if immigrants didnt do the jobs that americans as they like to call them selves dont want to do who would do ??????
December 12, 2010 at 7:02 pm, Oscooter73 said:
F**k the dream act, it's another way of bringing more criminal illegal aliens. mexico's drug war has taken over mexico, and eventually those drug wars will make it here in the u.s. i see a civil war rearing it's head soon.
December 13, 2010 at 4:58 am, Jake said:
As an american citizen I support the dream act. But they are a few things that concerned me and many americans and republicans who strongly oppose it and they think its “Amensty” which is bullcrap there not just getting a free ride to be a citizen, they have to work for it. Here are the things I change, its says criminals can be qualified for the Dream act, thats the part I don't really agree with, If you as a illegal have ANY criminal in your record you should not qualify for the dream act. another thing I would do is if you do qualify for the dream act and become a citizen, you will be not able to sponsor any of your family members, aunts, uncles cousins and so on. If these changes were made in the dream act. I'm pretty sure the majority of the republicans would vote for the dream act. The Dream ACT would definately pass. And many Americans would vote for it as well. And if you still don't think the dream act should pass if these changes were made, then your either ignorant or scared that these young talented illegals will take the spotlight away from you, if your worried about them taking away great paying jobs, then thats your fault, put more effort in your education, life is all about competing, don't think everything will come your way, its not gonna happen. you have to work for it.
December 12, 2010 at 8:51 pm, Ddymka said:
I was brought here when I was in 3rd grade and all I knew is that I had to adjust to living in this foreign country. And I did. I have always shown great alacrity when it came to my studies, got good grades, and made amazing friends. A couple of years later my parents started to inform me about the facts of me being illegal. I'm about to graduate at top 5% of my class and I have to attend a community college because neither I or my parents can afford me going to the college of my choice. I don't know that many illegal immigrants, but it's extremely ignorant of some of you to think that we are all criminals, or drug lords coming into your country to create havoc. My parents have lived a frugal life and payed their taxes like any other legal citizen. Don't blame my family, or me, if you live your life pay check to pay check, because frankly, it leads me to believe that you haven't made the most prudent choices in life. I have done nothing more or less than contribute to my school and community. Now I am stuck in school listening to how all my friends are getting into the colleges of their dreams. I'm happy for them, and I am okay with the reality of going into community college at this point, WHICH I WILL FULLY PAY FOR. But I would greatly appreciate if you would not call us all criminals, if you haven't even walked a mile in our shoes or fully understand what the DREAM Act stands for. I love this country, despite the fact that I haven't read very lovable comments below, and hope that I can be an asset one day. Therefore, I really hope this act will pass.
December 13, 2010 at 1:38 am, St1410 said:
If you were bought here it does not make you the citizen. Your parent are the people who you should blame on. You all should return to your original country. Don't expect me, a US tax payer to pay for your education and change our law in order for you to be a citizen. If you love America as you said, your should respect her law. If you want to join to the school here, pay international tuition fees like other international students. And then if you are that good in your study, you can apply for H1 visa after graduated and become a US citizen legally.
December 13, 2010 at 4:23 am, Jake said:
You are not paying for their education buddy. As a US citizen I rather pay taxes for these young talented Illegal immigrants to go to school who do good for this country, rather then the useless americans who don't want an education, these americans arent worth a damn in this country. Some just take advantage of our own government and get free money, so called “unenployment”. another thing is he can't apply for his H1 visa, because his parents broke the law, not him, and they wont let him because of that.
January 06, 2011 at 6:10 am, Sg1452 said:
bitch!!
December 14, 2010 at 12:16 am, UFO said:
Hey buddy, don't listen to anybody about your status. I went through the same exact thing in school. I also got scholarships but because of my status I couldn't take them. I also was felt bad knowing that my friends were going to their school of choice meanwhile the only thing I could apply for was community college. And yes my friends made fun of me when they asked me which school I applied to, but my professors still encouraged me to go for my dreams. School doesn't make the students, students make the school. I'm not going to say that it was easy. Out of our Engineering Department only 15 people graduated but like I always say nothing comes easy in life. There is always something or someone that will be opposed to what you do or who you are. I hope the Dream Act passes so that way you could apply for FAFSA and get help; something I couldn't do when I was in college because of my status. I had to save money in order to buy books, pencils, tuition, etc. I had to skip meals, go to bed on an empty stomach so I can pay for my schooling but I never let my dream die. And neither should you! I always keep it in mind and I truly appreciate what I have in my life and treasure my family. It was not our fault or choice to be born in a world which is full of hatred and hopefully things will change sooner rather than later.
December 13, 2010 at 4:59 am, Jake said:
As an american citizen I support the dream act. But they are a few things that concerned me and many americans and republicans who strongly oppose it and they think its “Amensty” which is bullcrap there not just getting a free ride to be a citizen, they have to work for it. Here are the things I change, its says criminals can be qualified for the Dream act, thats the part I don't really agree with, If you as a illegal have ANY criminal in your record you should not qualify for the dream act. another thing I would do is if you do qualify for the dream act and become a citizen, you will be not able to sponsor any of your family members, aunts, uncles cousins and so on. If these changes were made in the dream act. I'm pretty sure the majority of the republicans would vote for the dream act. The Dream ACT would definately pass. And many Americans would vote for it as well. And if you still don't think the dream act should pass if these changes were made, then your either ignorant or scared that these young talented illegals will take the spotlight away from you, if your worried about them taking away great paying jobs, then thats your fault, put more effort in your education, life is all about competing, don't think everything will come your way, its not gonna happen. you have to work for it.
December 13, 2010 at 2:20 pm, mili12 said:
ok so i reallly think that the dream act should and will pass all them racist people there are illegal students who are smarter than them white people and white people are just scared because they dont want the hispanics to take their jobs! right all yall people are just flat out racist i think anybody should have the right to have papers if they are smart they deserve a future! & I agree with the Dianna Basio girl am catholic and am proud to the guest 1234567 guy.
December 14, 2010 at 5:27 am, DREAMER said:
For all you ignorant rats… The way they will make sure you were here under age of 16 is check your high school record… Duh! Ignorant people read the bill first you have to be graduated from a high school no diploma no DREAM
December 14, 2010 at 4:46 pm, Steven2 said:
college for free? us illegals work harder then any body in this country we gotta work the double who someone with papers does and we pay for every lil piece of bread we eat so dont tell me just becasue you were born here you work harder then us
December 14, 2010 at 11:32 pm, Long Live Vera said:
REAL There is no other pathway to citizenship for these students. Besides the injustice of punishing children for the alleged transgressions of their parents, throwing away the talent we have invested in from K-12 and accruing losses in human and financial capital by deporting talented students is bad public policy. Passing the DREAM Act would allow America to gain from the hard-work and talent of educated immigrants and pull up immigrant communities. It would also free some of the backlog that currently plagues the legal immigration system. Also, the DREAM Act in its latest form, does not grant in-state tuition or federal financial aid to any student so this is not a “free pass” to get into college but a way to create equal opportunity for young immigrants to realize their American DREAMs.
December 14, 2010 at 11:33 pm, Long Live Vera said:
“.. There is no other pathway to citizenship for these students. Besides the injustice of punishing children for the alleged transgressions of their parents, throwing away the talent we have invested in from K-12 and accruing losses in human and financial capital by deporting talented students is bad public policy. Passing the DREAM Act would allow America to gain from the hard-work and talent of educated immigrants and pull up immigrant communities. It would also free some of the backlog that currently plagues the legal immigration system. Also, the DREAM Act in its latest form, does not grant in-state tuition or federal financial aid to any student so this is not a “free pass” to get into college but a way to create equal opportunity for young immigrants to realize their American DREAMs.. “
December 19, 2010 at 4:51 am, Vetelect said:
YOU MUST REMEMBER BOYS AND GIRLS THESE PEOPLE CROSSED THE BORDER ILLEGALY , IF THEY ARE PICKED UP THEY WILL BECOME FELONS WHICH WILL MAKE IT IMPOSIBLE TO BECOME A U . S. CITIZEN IN THE FUTURE, SO THEY SHOULD RETURN TO MEXICO BEFORE THIS HAPPENS AND PUT IN THE APPLICATIONS TO BECOME LEGAL AND TO LEARN MY ( FUCKING LANGUAGE)FIRST THEN ILL INVITE YOU FOR A BEER , BUT NOT ILLEGAL , FUCK NO , RESPECT OUR LAWS , RETURN TO MEXICO NOW , TONIGHT AND DOIT RIGHT , THE LEGAL WAY , NO CARTA VERDE NO ENTRO ESTADOS UNDIDOS .
December 31, 2010 at 6:16 am, poopoo stain said:
that comment about “dnt start picking your favorite college colors immigrants” wasnt necessary its just fucked up to say. so whoever wrote this is a douche bag and should see the other side of it.. all there is to say is douche bag thing to say u fuck
March 15, 2011 at 1:53 am, Liliramos113 said:
For anyone who says that illegal immigrants should just go back to their country to study, do you now know how things are over in their country?
1. Education in Hispanic countries is CRAP compared to the education one can receive here in the US.
2. Why should someone who’s known the US as their only home go to another place to study? Where is the logic in that?
3. The DREAM Act is NOT a bill that will give illegal immigrants a free pass into college. It’ll only make it easier for them to receive an opportunity to get into a college. Whether they get accepted in up to the college and the amount of effort they put into their grades.
For you ignorant idiots who are xenophobic and feel like all Hispanic illegal immigrants are only corrupting America, maybe you should focus on the all the hard work we put into this country. If it wasn’t for people like my dad or uncle, who would dry clean your clothes or make sure your lawn is mowed? Hard work doesn’t discriminate, because no matter who you are, what you look like, or the things you do concerning your ethnicity, we all have to work hard to get the things we want.
April 05, 2011 at 2:34 am, warrior Angel said:
Hey who said illegal immigrants is all related to mexicans yea currently they are the ones who are comming here illegaly but do you know immigrant means any one who is illegal it could be peruns,africans,asian,russians,pakinstans,…etc. not just only mexicans look if you dont know what immigrant means re-search it because i belive you already learned that at school In my Opinion the DREAM Act should be accepted in the U.S