Marvel Comics became a right wing target earlier this year after publishing a comic in which Captain America “undermined” the Tea Party. Now the Disney-owned company has come under fire for having black actor Idris Elba play a “whites only” role in the movie adaptation of ‘Thor.’ You can’t make this stuff up.
Fundamentalist group Council of Conservative Citizens joined a boycott of the Kenneth Branagh-directed ‘Thor’, because, according to the group, Elba has no right to be playing Norse god Heimdel, because all Norse gods, real people who exist, are Aryan.
“It’s not enough that Marvel attacks conservatives values, now mythological Gods must be re-invented with black skin,” they write. “It seems that Marvel Studios believes that white people should have nothing that is unique to themselves.”
Another post attacks Marvel’s ‘Black Panther’ series for sympathizing with independent South Africa, and Kyle Rogers, who heads the Council’s South Carolina chapter, lamented, “Marvel has taken their anti-white, radical campaign even further. They cast a black man as a Norse Deity.” These people are horrible.
The Council, which calls the States “an integral part of European civilization and the European people,” and insists “the American people and government should remain European in their composition and character,” a more polite way of saying “white is right,” has now organized an online boycott of ‘Thor,’ Marvel and common decency.
Elba, known best for playing Stringer Bell on ‘The Wire,’ basically called the boycott as absurd rubbish, saying, “Thor’s mythical, right? Thor has a hammer that flies to him when he clicks his fingers. That’s OK, but the color of my skin is wrong?”
The boycott comes after conservatives panned Marvel for an issue of Captain America’ in which the iconic hero describes what appears to be a Tea Party protest as an “anti-tax thing,” while his ally, black hero The Falcon, says he wouldn’t be welcome among the “angry white folks.”
Tea Party adherents and the Council both seized on the moment, with one conservative analyst remarking, “It seems to me there was a clear effort on someone’s part to undermine the Tea Party movement.”
Marvel writer Ed Brubaker was forced to defend the art. “I was simply using them to show the mood in the country in various places outside Captain America and the Falcon’s usual home, New York City,” he said. “It’s very similar to other things we’ve done in the comic, showing left-wing protest crowds back during the election season in 2008.”
This all sounds very silly: fringe white supremacists waging an untenable boycott. The Council, however, should not be so easily dismissed.
Though many politicians previously connected to the Council have disavowed its racist agenda — that list includes high profile leaders like Mike Huckabee, Bob Barr and Haley Barbour — the group has been defended by equally powerful leaders, like Ann Coulter, and this year collaborated with Tea Party groups in Florida and Mississippi to help elect our new conservative Congress. Their racism is real, and definitely worth keeping tabs on. That doesn’t mean, of course, the Council and its followers aren’t still totally ridiculous.
While we all know it’s great fun to hypothesize on the economics of superheroism, the majority of people know that Thor, Captain America and all those other costumed wonders aren’t a depiction of real life. Sure, the Council needs to work out its racist tendencies — America as a “European nation,” c’mon — but would also do well to suspend disbelief for a second and enjoy the show, because they’re doing nothing more than making themselves look like complete idiots.
December 16, 2010 at 2:11 am, Triyades_fire said:
CNN carried an opinion piece about “Whites playing roles of color”, When the “prince of Persia” was in theaters. I remember it distinctly. They even gave validity to the people mad over it and even brought up more examples. Yet when “people of color” play as roles in a mythology that was created by Whites and the very creators most certainly intended them to be White, Whites cannot grow angered over the issue without being racist?
Yes Andrew Belonsky, we see exactly what double standards and hypocrisy you preach: White's have no right to concern themselves with who portrays their culture, heritage and “gods”, only “people of color” do.
December 16, 2010 at 2:31 am, Pale Face said:
I agree completely Triyades_fire. I must be a “supremacist” now.
December 16, 2010 at 5:30 pm, Archaeon said:
Yes. You are. Sad…
January 28, 2011 at 5:11 am, Joe Smetana said:
… Said the pot to the kettle …
December 16, 2010 at 4:25 am, James said:
The Prince of Persia was played by a jew, not a white man.
December 16, 2010 at 5:27 pm, Archaeon said:
Ummm, many Jews ARE white. Judaism is a religion;Israeli is a nationality; Jewish is a culture and/or faith. NONE of these terms have anything to do with racial designation.
What IS it with all of the imbeciles replying on this thread???
December 16, 2010 at 5:32 pm, Guest said:
Wrong.
http://www.simpletoremember.co…/
December 16, 2010 at 8:42 pm, Archaeon said:
Awww, that was cute. However, since I know nothing of the source of this study (and its controls), I'll hold my response to one very important point: Yes, the Jewish people may have common ancestry (a relatively small group that has persisted for thousands of years would HAVE to, by definition), but it is not because of a “Jewish gene” (you'll remember that phrase was in quotation marks in the article as well) making the Jews a separate RACE. Asians, blacks, and whites are among the recognized racial designations…Jewish is not. By your snarky, one-word implication, all humans should consider themselves African, since that is the origin of our common ancestor, as agreed by a GREAT many anthropologists and historians.
Nice try, but you need to do better.
December 16, 2010 at 10:38 pm, Rtfgj said:
Wrong http://erectuswalksamongst.us/
January 28, 2011 at 5:20 am, Joe Smetana said:
Individuals should consider themselves individuals. Race is an irrelevant social concept that should have died along with the Nazi empire. Ethnic groupings are much more relevant. Italians are distinct from French who are distinct from Poles who are distinct from Jews who are distinct from Swedes who are distinct from Slovenes, et cetera. Why waste time talking about white and black? It makes as much sense as talking about the brown eyed and the green eyed peoples. Or the blondes and the brunettes. Or the short and the tall. French think of themselves as french, not really white. The importance of this white/black/red/yellow distinction is really more of a North American phenomenon. Europeans have distinct cultures, languages, music, history… so why group them as white? There is no “white” language, “white” culture, “white” music, etc. Unless, of course, you’re a black/white supremacist or a poorly informed individual… OR BOTH!
January 28, 2011 at 5:12 am, Joe Smetana said:
You’ve made your point, so let’s stop with the name calling, ok fella’?
December 16, 2010 at 7:06 pm, Guest said:
Jew is not a color of skin, like white or black. Jew is a religion and an ethnic group. You can't SEE someone is a Jew like you can see someone is Black or White.
Have a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J…
Because if you can tell me that you could tell Sammy Davis Jr was a Jew just by looking at him, then you are blind. And if you argue that he converted, then please tell me how I can convert to being Black because I feel like doing that today.
January 28, 2011 at 5:21 am, Joe Smetana said:
Be careful! You might accidentally educate someone!
December 16, 2010 at 2:45 am, F-u! said:
Hey Belonski, why am I not surprised in the least that you're another radical left-winger who hates white people, our values and our culture? Because your people have been at it, trying to destroy everything that's great about our civilization in Europe and in America for way too long for everybody to figure you guys out. The hypocritical multicultists who want “diversity” for everybody else but for yourselves. Last time I checked it was a felony in Israel to marry a non-jew. Even selling property to a gentile is a crime in the land of your “chosen” people. But I guess Jewish Supremacism is OK, right? They are allowed to be fundamentalists, of course!
But we cannot be offended by the huge disrespect to our culture –another one– of Marvel casting a black actor as a Norse god.
Sure, because you say so, darling.
December 16, 2010 at 5:23 pm, Archaeon said:
You're an idiot. It is not a felony to marry a non-jew in Israel. Where do you find such innane garbage???
December 16, 2010 at 6:45 pm, Guest said:
Wow, you ARE an idiot! If you're going to hate a group of people, then hate them for REAL reasons!!!!!! Don't make up shit! I feel dumber the more I'm on the internet with people like you!
December 16, 2010 at 10:06 pm, Jt said:
who says that they're pro any race supremacist? but this is our country, our problem. idc what they do in Israel (if what ur saying has any merit at all). I care what they do in america becuz quite frankly..im an american. hmm. make sense to you now? your should i use less words so u can comprehend it?
January 28, 2011 at 4:36 am, Joe Smetana said:
Wah wah wah. So everyone’s a hypocrite. Tell me something I haven’t heard!
December 16, 2010 at 4:42 am, Phil said:
Wake up white man…
January 28, 2011 at 5:02 am, Joe Smetana said:
No… white man… go back to sleep.
December 16, 2010 at 4:45 am, Panfukkintera said:
You can't make this stuff up?? Are you retard? Similar instances have occured in regards to non white people playing the roles of people who were not historically white.
A black man playing Thor is extremely out of place dumbass.
December 16, 2010 at 5:33 am, Ulverwolf said:
I wonder how jews would like Jackie Chan playing Moses?
December 16, 2010 at 5:20 pm, Archaeon said:
You're not too bright, are you? I certainly hope you do not procreate…It will be the beginning of the end of the human species.
January 28, 2011 at 4:48 am, Joe Smetana said:
Everyone who can SHOULD procreate! That’s what life boils down to… the continuation of life. Life for the sake of life. Hoping they don’t… well.. that’s crazy talk!
December 16, 2010 at 8:05 pm, Medmedina007 said:
It would be the most badass thing ever.
“Part the Red Sea, I don't want no problem!”
And he would carry around a ladder to defend babies and stuff.
Yeah, awesome movie.
December 17, 2010 at 6:06 pm, Captain Reading Comprehension said:
He would need a black sidekick for it to be 'fair'. Chris Tucker plays God.
“Me? Part the Red Sea? With this stick? That doesn't make any sense. You know what l'm saying?”
“Dude nobody know what you're saying!”
I would watch that.
January 28, 2011 at 4:46 am, Joe Smetana said:
Now that’s a movie they NEED to make! FAST!
December 16, 2010 at 5:55 am, Divideandconquer said:
F-k you Andrew!!!
December 17, 2010 at 2:03 pm, Teelin said:
Is saying “F-k you” that much different than name calling?
December 17, 2010 at 8:42 pm, Divideandconquer said:
It was my first initial reaction to Andrew's remarks on this matter. Instead of taking a neutral stance on writing this column, he chose a side. I was simply disgusted however, I haven't resorted to childish name calling to describe how I feel about his poor journalism. He referred to those of us who rebuke this matter as 'horrible' & that we're 'doing nothing more than making ourselves look like complete idiots'. So, according to him, this is a one-sided issue & our opinions or feelings on the matter don't count. He's fortunate if that's all he gets.
December 18, 2010 at 5:15 pm, Teelin said:
Your first initial reaction was to resort to profanity. An understandable response when confronted with something you do not like, but let's not get on our high horse about name calling when that was your first response.
December 18, 2010 at 8:46 pm, Divideandconquer said:
The point of the matter is your side has nothing to back up your argument but name-calling & profanity. You have nothing for me. Until you do have a legitimate point to make, let's not be too quick to run into a debate without a full understandment of what your talking about. You have nothing.
December 19, 2010 at 3:06 am, Teelin said:
You started the profanity. And I maintain that I do not care what color the actor is, so long as he can portray the emotions and general feel of the character. I think Elba can.
December 19, 2010 at 12:20 pm, Divideandconquer said:
You can maintain all that you like. Regardless of your opinion, there's many of us who with good reason are outraged by Marvel's choice & the words of this journalist. If you are going to come at us with a negative approach, prepare for it in return. Elba is of the wrong ethnicity for the job regardless of his acting abilities or previous work. Keep in mind this discussion & debate goes far past what's posted here in this column. The very notion of a negro playing the part of a norse deity is highly offensive & will not be accepted by many around the world…not now, not ever.
December 20, 2010 at 1:29 pm, Teelin said:
You started the profanity, then later you moved to threats such as “[kicking[ your front teeth in the back of your neck,” and now you're using the word negro in 2010. I now feel incredibly vindicated in writing you off as an uneducated, classless, racist. I had my suspicions before this, but now I feel really safe in saying it.
December 20, 2010 at 2:18 pm, Divideandconquer said:
Learn how to read. To discuss this maturely in person is one thing, to stand there in person & name call is another. If someone did that to you, I'm sure the real soul sister would come out. My use of profanity in telling this classless, uneducated journalist 'F-you' after being offended by his remarks has absolutely nothing to do with the point at hand. But, then again, it's much easier for you to grasp onto that because you have nothing else. Feel free to write me off. I've already written you off long ago.
December 21, 2010 at 12:22 am, Divideandconquer said:
And, by the way, how did you receive your education? Were you aided by the United NEGRO College Fund? In regards to alleged threats, do you mean like the New Black Panther Party threatening & attempting to intimidate voters? Were they afraid that your month of February was going to be taken away?
January 28, 2011 at 4:56 am, Joe Smetana said:
This comment represents me wasting my time talking to people who refuse to change their opinions, have a civil discussion, and treat one another with respect. I just wasted 1 minute typing this up. Pointless, really.
December 16, 2010 at 6:39 am, Divideandconquer said:
I wonder what kind of backlash there would be if a white man was cast as MLK, Malcolm X, or Kunta-Kintai in a movie? Hey Andrew, don't quit your day job & by the way…go f-k yourself.
December 16, 2010 at 5:16 pm, Archaeon said:
You are a pathetically sad individual who should consider, very carefully, the meaning of the word “mythological”. The people you list really existed with the skin tones they actually possessed. Heimdall did not.
Stop being a moron.
December 16, 2010 at 5:18 pm, Archaeon said:
Excuse me…Kunta Kintai was representative of a group of people.
NOW, stop being a moron.
December 16, 2010 at 10:24 pm, Divideandconquer said:
Just remember, the first one to start name calling loses the debate. Now, you're saying that the nordic gods don't represent a group of people? There are many people of Scandinavian descent (including myself) who think & feel differently. Now, who's the moron?
January 28, 2011 at 4:45 am, Joe Smetana said:
One can’t lose a debate they were never part of. This comments section is like a bunch of hecklers turning on one another. Ridiculous! C’mon! Practice a little civility!
December 16, 2010 at 10:02 pm, Jt said:
your kinda dumb arent you? because OBVIOUSLY a marvel comic book character is the same as MLK, Malcolm X and so on. Yes, it'd be stupid if they portrayed hitler as a black man. no one's objecting to that you ignorant piece of crap. This is a comic book character based LOOSELY upon the norse god of the same name. race hardly matters in this senario. and the fact that they're boycotting it doesnt help. Oh that and the fact that they are racist biggots. but you know. let's talk about MLK being portrayed as a white man instead of looking at this in a logical, critical manner :]
December 17, 2010 at 1:22 am, Divideandconquer said:
First of all, I love how when 'intelligent' minds like yourself are presented with 'logical' facts & discussion that they don't agree with revert to immature name calling. If you were such the intellectual, you would understand that the character in the comics is portrayed as white & many longtime fans don't support the idea of changing what was originally printed. And yes, race has everything to do with that. Beyond that, nordic folklore & mythology is considered as sacred to people of Scandinavian descent as MLK is to blacks & the civil rights movement. That was the analogy I was presenting. And, if blacks had any notable mythological 'african' gods of their own & white men were portrayed as them in a movie you would hear the loudest cry of racism nationwide. But, then again, someone as intelligent & logical as yourself already know that.
December 17, 2010 at 5:51 am, Divideandconquer said:
Oh, and JT…I know you as well as the rest of the name callers on here feel safe & secure sitting behind the computer. But, if you actually had the heart to 'attempt' to insult me in person that way, I would firmly plant your front teeth in the back of your neck. And, by the way…go f-k yourself.
December 19, 2010 at 2:49 pm, Davevfisher said:
Oh so what your saying is if you had to debate this subject in person. You would be the first to escalate to violence once you had exhausted the ability to verbally convey your thoughts. Now don't that make you racist if you wan to to kill some one in case they want to kill you all because either they don't agree with you, are not your skin tone/religion or empathise with people not of you skin tone or religion.
Don't worry, there are plenty out there like you. Question is unless you personally kill 100 blacks a day wherever you live, your a weak racialist who feels more comfortable behind the keyboard.
What's the matter. Are you afraid someone may shoot back or some emphasizing white police will shoot you!!!
Be a man, stand up for you Norse religion and kill some blacks..!
December 20, 2010 at 5:11 am, Divideandconquer said:
Looks like someone's reading skills are less than proficient. No one, including myself, mentioned anything about murder here. But, I bet you would love to point this discussion in that direction. Wouldn't you? It's your kind that relish the opportunity to instigate a situation & then step back to play innocent when someone calls you on it. If you were to slander me in person, the same way that JT did, I'd be more than enthused to show you how comfortable I am away from the computer. Mind your business Buck.
January 28, 2011 at 4:42 am, Joe Smetana said:
It’s easier to attack straw-man arguments than actual arguments. Everyone does it! Politicians especially. Instead of attacking your opponent’s position on something, you put words in their mouth and attack that instead! Classic!
January 28, 2011 at 4:40 am, Joe Smetana said:
Hey, let’s not get crazy!
January 28, 2011 at 4:40 am, Joe Smetana said:
You should make a movie like that… white casting for black gods. I’d pay to see it!
January 28, 2011 at 4:38 am, Joe Smetana said:
Are we talking about the comic book character MLK or the real person?
December 16, 2010 at 9:32 am, Aaron Lippe said:
How Odd!
Heimdall was described in the Edda as the “White God”. In fact as hvítastr ása “whitest of the aesir”.
I can't wait to see Paris Hilton playing the lead part in Shaka Zulu!
December 16, 2010 at 6:24 pm, Swarley said:
It's a fucking movie. Chill out, chief.
December 17, 2010 at 9:09 am, Divideandconquer said:
It's blasphemy & blatant disregard for nordic ancestry & culture. How about you just let the grown-ups discuss this.
December 18, 2010 at 1:26 am, Swarley said:
It's LOOSELY based off the MYTHOLOGY. So, how about you calm down and stop bitching about a movie based off a COMIC book?
December 18, 2010 at 2:26 am, Divideandconquer said:
Do you even read the comic or have any knowledge at all of nordic mythology? When you learn how to formulate an intelligent opinion get back to me. Now, I think it's past someone's bedtime. Don't worry yourself over what the big kids are talking about.
December 21, 2010 at 6:18 pm, Thedumpspot said:
I've never read much of Thor's title comic, although I have read the Avenger's and Ultimates comics that feature him. The comics I've read imply that Marvel's Thor only bears a passing resemblance to the actual mythology, for instance the biggest difference (that I noticed) is that Loki is Thor's brother in the comics and in the mythology, he's a fire giant who Odin befriended and became blood brothers with. Other names and creatures are used that bear little or no resemblance or have no relation to their original mythological counterparts (Fafnir the dragon gets mentioned in the first Ultimates series but it's as the sole inhabitant of some alternate dimension that Thor sent a doomsday bomb too before it could destroy the earth).
Basically it has very little to do with actual mythology Marvel's Thor is not Norse Mythology's Thor. Since the comic movies are more based on the Ultimate marvel line rather than the standard Marvel universe line, and I don't think Hiemdel has appeared in that line yet, they do have a lot of room for how they want him to appear in the movie.
I never had a problem with the Avatar: the Last Air Bender's actors and I didn't care about Prince of Persia's actors being white either. So in turn I don't care about this. These aren't Norse Mythology's gods so they aren't beholden to Norse Mythology's rules. The only time I thought a change was dumb so far was Michael Clarke Duncan as the Kingpin. The Kingpin was supposed to be a rich white racist (although not blatantly so), casting Mr. Duncan in the role changed an essential part of his character. Now he's just an fairly standard crime boss (they could have at least put him in a fat suit to give him the proper proportions, oh well the movie was awful anyway mostly because they changed parts of Daredevil's character and some awful acting, but I digress). Hiemdel being very pale isn't so much an essential character trait as it is a physical appearance thing, and since like I said this isn't Norse Mythology's Heimdel, it's Marvel's, and what Marvel's Heimdel looks like is ultimately up Marvel and in no way should be taken as any sort of commentary on actual Norse Myths.
December 21, 2010 at 6:27 pm, James (figured it out) said:
Hmm.. I wonder why this site even asks for a name if it's going to use the e-mail address as your name. Oh well.
Anyway I should add that I intend to see this movie as it looks like fun and I've never considered odd casting choices a reason not to see a movie. I did go see Daredevil after all, and I did intend to see Spiderman 3 despite Topher Grace being in no way bulky enough to be Eddie Brock (never managed to get to the theater for that one though.
December 16, 2010 at 8:45 pm, Archaeon said:
Were they talking about his skin color, or are you just assuming?
December 17, 2010 at 9:04 am, Divideandconquer said:
If you actually knew anything about this matter, you would know that he's talking about what he KNOWS. Try doing some reading of your own sometime. It might help you.
January 28, 2011 at 5:36 am, Joe Smetana said:
Shaka Zulu! I love that movie!
December 16, 2010 at 11:27 am, yahoo-3AF5SCWG6Y5SYOR472VTEJ52QM said:
Sorry to see so many bigots showed up in the comments.
January 28, 2011 at 5:01 am, Joe Smetana said:
When don’t they? They’re everywhere! Just look in the mirror!
December 16, 2010 at 12:14 pm, Mel Lingerman said:
We need to make a movie about the Revolution and cast Denzel Washington as President Washington. We need to remake Patton and cast George Takai as General Patton. This politically-correct rewriting of history is absurd.
December 16, 2010 at 2:29 pm, Kronocide said:
“Re-writing of history?” It's a fucking comic book you bigoted morons. Why are you comparing a comic book story to real history? It would be silly to cast a white man as Malcolm X because it's real history, unlike a comic book. All these comparisons are silly.
Racists are scum chest thumping on comment sections. Get a life.
December 16, 2010 at 5:15 pm, Johanna said:
It is not “just” a comic book figure, Asatru is very widely still practised religion and Heimdal is one of their gods. Thats why it's offensive. Also, it's european culture.
December 16, 2010 at 5:51 pm, thatruth said:
Get back on your meds . No one believes that shit your talking about . Just a racist . Plain and simple .
January 28, 2011 at 3:25 am, Joe Smetana said:
Racist! Racist! I’m going to keep screaming racist instead of actually discussing the issue like an intelligent person. Maybe that will convince everyone that my sloppy conclusions based on my own personal prejudices are correct. RACIST! RACIST! RACIST! OK. End of discussion. Everyone who takes offense is just RACIST! RACIST! RACIST! Anyone convinced yet?
January 28, 2011 at 3:27 am, Harry said:
Racist! Racist! Racist! Sounds like a chicken clucking away!
December 16, 2010 at 6:25 pm, get real said:
Idris Elba is from England…you know, the England in Europe?
August 18, 2011 at 5:38 pm, wes said:
he is not English, and regardless, English people are not NORDIC.
December 16, 2010 at 10:12 pm, Jt said:
i dnt thhink these people r boycotting it because its offensive to the religion. im sure most of them are protestants. they're jus being racist.
December 17, 2010 at 5:53 pm, Captain Reading Comprehension said:
You do not have to be black to be offended on behalf of blacks, so why do you have to be nordic or pagan to be offended on behalf of them? You're just being arbitrary.
December 22, 2010 at 10:20 pm, Oneman said:
JT you must be really retarded boy… You spur nothing but hate from that mouth of yours! HATE AGAINST WHITES! YOU HATEFUL BIGOT!
December 22, 2010 at 5:55 pm, Abailou said:
European history STARTED with aboriginal Europeans who were people of color…not caucasian! Ancient Europe usurped their culture…and I dont have to point out the contributions of the Moors to Europe.
January 28, 2011 at 3:28 am, Harry said:
Cluck Cluck Cluck! Racist! RACIST! RACIST!
March 16, 2011 at 8:35 pm, Kapnobatai said:
Nordic Europeans were white, and other Europeans were varying shades of white with distinct features like color of hair and eyes (Mediterraneans had darker hair and tanner skin, those who would become Celts had a propensity for red hair, etc.). The Indo-Aryan migrations, from India and Persia, brought people of lighter shades of brown who lived together with the proto-Europeans and helped shape what eventually became the European cultures of today. There wasn’t a whole lot of black people running about.
As for the Moors, they brought nothing but progress to Europe, forced conversions to Islam being one of the most visionary concepts. Remember kids, racism is BAD because the visionary and progressive people say it’s BAD and you must believe them or you will be RE-EDUCATED.
June 27, 2011 at 2:07 pm, Carlos Mencia said:
The contributions of the Moors? You mean 800 years of occupation, along with their “contribution” to North Africa, the continuing slave trade, TODAY, where nearly 1000000 people in Mauritania are still slaves?
December 23, 2010 at 5:54 pm, sjm752003 said:
Europeans and especially Euro-Americans have NO PROBLEM with rewriting the history, religions, beliefs, and above all destroying the cultures and languages of People of Color all over this planet. But you bellow like cows when someone does .05 percent of you STILL DO.
June 27, 2011 at 2:02 pm, Carlos Mencia said:
The same can be said about Arabs, who are STILL DESTROYING INDIGENOUS CULTURES IN AFRICA. But no one cares about that, since it is not white folks doing the destroying, it’s okay to let brown and black folk kill each other right?
December 17, 2010 at 6:06 am, Divideandconquer said:
How about when Marvel makes a movie on the 'Black Panther' they have a white man play the role? How many fans of that particuliar series would have an issue with that? Get a clue.
December 17, 2010 at 2:02 pm, Teelin said:
I do not really see Heimdall's color as an essential facet of his personality, as it would be with the Black Panther or your other suggestions (such as MLK).
December 17, 2010 at 5:59 pm, Captain Reading Comprehension said:
Heimdall was described as “the whitest of the gods”, and it is therefore an essential facet of his character.
Even if that weren't the case, it's similar to portraying a god or even a male prophet from someone's religion as female. It's totally needless and it's offensive, because it flies in the face of someone's belief system, and comes off as mocking.
I am female and atheist, and I would be a little annoyed if someone portrayed Heimdall as a woman for no reason, too.
Ultimately, I think what needs to be questioned here are the motives for the initial act. Once that is settled, we can discuss the reactions.
December 17, 2010 at 6:11 pm, Teelin said:
I always saw the description of “the whitest of the gods” as a physical describer and when it comes to portrayal of a character, and to me actual physical stats are less important that ability to capture the persona of the character. It is not mocking.
I'm a christian, but if someone wants to make a film with a female Jesus, I am okay with it. Find the actor who can get the job done.
December 23, 2010 at 12:22 am, 4dgrafikfx said:
Being christian does not absolve you from being an idiot.
December 18, 2010 at 2:26 am, Pamlegal2000 said:
Just think of him as being the “blackest of the gods” and go into that as being an essential part of his character
January 28, 2011 at 3:30 am, Harry said:
Cluck Cluck Cluck! Racist! RACIST! RACIST! Cluck Cluck Cluck! RACIST!
December 22, 2010 at 5:57 pm, Abailou said:
Who gives a damn about the Black panter comic book and what color he is in a movie. If we can deal with Jesus and God being painted white…i'm sure we can deal with The Black Panther being white lol
January 28, 2011 at 3:44 am, Joe Smetana said:
RACIST! RACIST! RACIST! Does anyone else feel like smearing other people by calling them racist is productive? Or… is it counterproductive? Let’s try again. RACIST RACIST RACIST! Is it starting to sound ridiculous to keep calling people racists when they just think the norse god should have remained light-skinned? It’s not about race, it’s about factual accuracy. But hey, why not smear anyone who thinks it was a bad call by casting a black man as a norse god. It’s not like they might actually be right, right? They might as well have made one black, one gay, one latino, one transgender, one native american, and one asian? Is that overkill? SURE! But it’s the principle that matters. The “Thor” movie is meant to make money. If making a light-skinned norse god a black man attracts more black moviegoers, that’s great. Movies are meant to make money. The more the better. By making all norse gods a different color, ethnicity, etc, it would probably backfire and result in financial losses. One black norse god is a pretty low-risk decision and will probably appeal to blacks more than it would have had it not included a black norse god. It’s that simple.
December 23, 2010 at 12:08 am, 4dgrafikfx said:
How eloquently spoken. You display an amazing mastery of verbiage. Not surprising for someone so intent on putting down the European folklore heritage. There is usually little aptitude shown by your kind. Thank you for showing the real attitude of your people.
December 23, 2010 at 1:21 am, Max Headroom said:
You sir, are an idiot.
March 19, 2011 at 5:32 pm, Spencer McCann said:
It IS a comic. You are right.
But it’s also a peoples religious mythology, furthermore it is one of the only mythologies which is almost blatantly supportive of the idea that their “gods” are actually deified manifestations of ancient chiefs. So in a way, they ARE based on real people.
The people hiding behind the argument that “it’s a comic”, would be the first people disavowing a “comic” which depicted a traditional African King or God by using Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise. We all heard the outcry when Angelina Jolee was cast in THAT role.
December 18, 2010 at 7:34 pm, Tony said:
We need to remake a movie about the Middle Eastern Jesus, where he is a white guy….oh wait, THEY'RE ALL MADE THAT WAY!!!
Grow up, just enjoy the story and let the best actor win the job! If he starts referring to his “black” roots as a Norse God, then you've got an argument, otherwise, you're just being racist!
December 16, 2010 at 1:46 pm, Pamlegal2000 said:
Wake up people the Black man is God ……. this mythological character “Thor” is just that “myth” , “story book invention ” Therefore Marvel is free to cast anyone as a mythological character. You have to admit, Mr. Elba is fine!!!!!! in his role as this character.
December 16, 2010 at 3:03 pm, Kudabeen said:
So Thor is the equivalent or Moses, Malcolm X, Dr. King, and actual cultural/religious figures…
I'm Black and I don't like Idris as Thor…Because isn't doesn't make since, but I don't feel sympathy for racist idiots that try to make this an issue to promote their warpped since of struggle in the world. Poor White Men you have it so bad having to treat people as equals (which you don't) and being held accountable for your discriminatory practices (which you aren't) and having to endure the smear campaign taking place on you by other white men (what's the truth?)…ridiculous.
Keep Thor the way was created and embraced as…because it is the best way to do it…
December 16, 2010 at 6:08 pm, Teelin said:
He's playing Thor? Not Heimdall?
Should they keep Thor the way he was created by myth? Or recreated by Marvel in the 60s? Or should they be allowed to adjust and recreate using the best man for the job in an effort to tell the best story possible?
January 28, 2011 at 4:31 am, Joe Smetana said:
Best man for the job? Best story possible? Heck, it’s a money-making attempt to gain wider appeal and raise profits. If you don’t have a problem with it, neither do I!
December 16, 2010 at 6:21 pm, Swarley said:
He's not playing Thor.. He's playing Heimdel and I don't see a problem with it. People just like to find something to bitch about, even if it's something like a comic book. Seriously, people need to lighten the hell up.
January 28, 2011 at 4:29 am, Joe Smetana said:
Agreed! EVERYONE LIGHTEN UP! TAKE A DEEP BREATH! RELEASE! There we go. All better!
December 17, 2010 at 6:10 pm, Captain Reading Comprehension said:
If you think Thor is just a comic book, and not an actual cultural/religious figure, you're about as ready to comment on this a-wait, you think Idris is playing Thor?
Screw the facts man, someone was allegedly being “racist”! Just run in fingers a blazi-er.. hunt and pecking, more likely.
Jesus christ.
January 28, 2011 at 4:28 am, Joe Smetana said:
Sounds like someone got up on the wrong side of the bed. Thanks for grouping up hundreds of millions of light-skinned individuals as “Poor White Men” and laying on the sarcasm. Your level of intelligence is just SO much higher than those who group tens of millions of dark-skinned individuals as “Lazy Black Men”. I’m sure both of these sloppy conclusions are completely 100% true. Because you said so.
December 16, 2010 at 3:44 pm, andjew hates whites said:
Idiots? What a commie jew.The U.s was 85% white until the 1965 immigration act that was swindled through. Andrew ..it is a European country founded on white values. Go home jew.
January 28, 2011 at 4:53 am, Joe Smetana said:
I just want to remind everyone that Jews have made a huge contribution to US culture and values as well as European culture and values. Culturally, Christians today are essentially Jews who believe their messiah has come and will come again. Jews are those who believe their messiah has yet to arrive. So…. let’s not get crazy!
December 16, 2010 at 3:46 pm, Racistassholehater said:
Well of course this is right out of the Josef Goebbels, Reich Minister of Propaganda School of, “Ïf it ain't propaganda. it ain't real.”
Look at you Neanderthal throwbacks attempting to justify your assholiness by citing other examples of racist assholiness. Kind of juvenile. But then racists are looking a lot like arrested developement.
December 16, 2010 at 5:01 pm, D. J. Pangburn said:
I think the idea of Idris Elba as Norse god is inspired. The man's a bad ass and great actor. Why not?
January 28, 2011 at 4:57 am, Joe Smetana said:
Word.
December 16, 2010 at 5:14 pm, Hddjdnfk said:
I still practice Norse paganism. So no the Norse gods are not made up mythical characters. Scandinavia was still pagan up to the 13 th centuries in large numbers. Then they were forced, an murdered into becoming Christians. Heimdall is known as the whitest of the gods! It's an obvious slap inthe face he is the one they used a black actor for. I'm sure Indians would be upset if shiva was played by an African pygmy . It is no more a fictionary character than is Jesus. Sorry I can't type on this tiny iPhone keypad!
December 16, 2010 at 5:57 pm, andrewbelonsky said:
I'll be addressing this in future posts, but I think there's a distinction between fictional and mythical. Fiction is simply made-up. Myths typically teach universal social lessons or norms, and therefore are not bound by race/color.
December 16, 2010 at 9:54 pm, Divideandconquer said:
You still didn't address the issue of what kind of backlash there would be if the tables were turned. And?
December 16, 2010 at 10:04 pm, Divideandconquer said:
How about if a white man put on a grass skirt, put a bone in his nose, picked up a spear, danced around a fire as a great 'Bush god' & we shot a movie of it? Do you think 'african americans' would be a little offended? They cry racism for every other thing.
December 17, 2010 at 8:02 pm, MoorishRuler said:
U devils make me laugh lol…that was funny
January 28, 2011 at 4:03 am, Joe Smetana said:
@BoorishRuler: Devils? And what are you – an angel?
Now you’re making me laugh!
December 19, 2010 at 2:36 pm, Davevfisher said:
There is a white man lording it up in the jungle. African Americans are not offended by him, only his percived dominance of all the non whites around him. He is the fictional character “Tarzan”….. A bit like Paul Hogan knowing more about tracking the outback than any Aborigine..
You guys need to get in touch with your Aryan Pagan roots and blow some stuff up!!!
December 20, 2010 at 6:06 am, Divideandconquer said:
You need to get in touch with your african roots & find out why your own people sold you to the white man.
January 28, 2011 at 4:00 am, Joe Smetana said:
Zing! But an ‘African people’ never really existed as a united entity. Just like Europeans, Africans are made up of several different nationalities, tribes, cultures, and use many different types of languages. Most African-Americans don’t really know much about their roots because they were separated from them, mixed together, and created a new ethnic identity. Culturally, southern whites and southern blacks have more in common than southern blacks and nigerians or togolese or somolians. Cultural similarities between American blacks and their African cousins are mostly skin deep. Nothing to be ashamed of. The distinct culture of American blacks was, is, and will continue to be, in many ways, superior to that of their cousins across the pond. Just think of the origins of things like Jazz, Blues, Ragtime, Basketball, Baseball, Football, Track, etc. Think about it.
December 22, 2010 at 6:00 pm, Abailou said:
What type of backlash has there been since Jesus and God were painted white?
January 28, 2011 at 4:03 am, Joe Smetana said:
You’re right, they should have been painted olive.
February 20, 2011 at 10:50 pm, FailMaster said:
Yeah except if Jesus really did exist, he would have been pretty tan/brown because he lived in the desert. Instead he’s painted with a pure white skin. It’s nice to see your idiocy through your ridiculous snark.
April 29, 2011 at 4:53 pm, Teamperil said:
And in Kevin Smith movies, GOD was portrayed by a WOMAN!! And not just a woman, a CANADIAN woman. Like god would be Canadian….
December 16, 2010 at 6:44 pm, Guest said:
Who says that Jesus was white???
December 17, 2010 at 5:51 pm, Captain Reading Comprehension said:
Definitely not the guy you're replying to, friend.
December 21, 2010 at 2:17 am, Steve Landcleamer said:
Hahaha Norse Paganism!
January 28, 2011 at 4:04 am, Joe Smetana said:
Crackerjack!
December 16, 2010 at 5:15 pm, Johanna said:
It is not “just” a comic book figure, Asatru is very widely still practised religion and Heimdal is one of their gods. Thats why it's offensive. Also, it's european culture.
December 16, 2010 at 5:16 pm, Archaeon said:
You are a pathetically sad individual who should consider, very carefully, the meaning of the word “mythological”. The people you list really existed with the skin tones they actually possessed. Heimdall did not.
Stop being a moron.
December 16, 2010 at 5:18 pm, Archaeon said:
Excuse me…Kunta Kintai was representative of a group of people.
NOW, stop being a moron.
December 16, 2010 at 5:20 pm, Archaeon said:
You're not too bright, are you? I certainly hope you do not procreate…It will be the beginning of the end of the human species.
December 16, 2010 at 5:23 pm, Archaeon said:
You're an idiot. It is not a felony to marry a non-jew in Israel. Where do you find such innane garbage???
December 16, 2010 at 5:46 pm, SB said:
All this fuss over a kiddie comic book Movie….CLASSIC!!!
December 16, 2010 at 5:49 pm, Sa_holmes90 said:
It's a simple argument, if he is white in the comics, we find a white actor for the role. If he is black in the comics, we find a black actor for the role, and so on. I'm not being racist in my argument, whatsoever. Long time readers may be getting upset because Hollywood keeps destroying their long time favorite comics. Hollywood, get the hint, stay as true to the comics as you possibly can, and you will not have these issues. Furthermore, remember that the stories in the comics is what gives you the chance to even make these films, so why not honor the material the best you can.
December 16, 2010 at 6:01 pm, endhatenow said:
Well, we've sat through countless movies featuring a white Jesus, so whats the difference? No one wants to admit that he probably looked more like Naveen Andrews than Jim Caviezel.
January 28, 2011 at 4:21 am, Joe Smetana said:
I’ll admit it. So, I guess that disproves your theory. Damn. Sorry.
December 16, 2010 at 6:02 pm, IDCman said:
Okay, I am going to stop this, God backwards mean Dog The End I won.
December 16, 2010 at 6:04 pm, Nephilim said:
Look too all you dumb people out there that gives a shit that a black guy is playing this role, your an idiot. first and foremost he's playing a “god” which means they can be what ever hell they want. if a god walks up to u as a short hobbit swing a hammer twice the size of him and beats the hell out of u with it guess what , bet that was thor. to all the dumb ppl that still have a problem with it, you are stupid go kill your self.
December 16, 2010 at 8:11 pm, Medmedina007 said:
Not to mention he's both an alien and a god, so the normal social dynamic doesn't really work.
January 28, 2011 at 4:20 am, Joe Smetana said:
Don’t force your mythological interpretations on us! Just because your gods can be whatever the hell they want to be doesn’t mean another’s gods can. Not all gods have the same powers, depending on your mythological bias. GEEZ!
December 16, 2010 at 6:14 pm, andrewbelonsky said:
A friend just remarked, as some of you have, that I should have made a distinction between Thor from Paganism and Thor from comic books. All references to Thor here are of the Marvel character, not a religious figure.
December 16, 2010 at 8:50 pm, Archaeon said:
Mr. Belonsky…
I admire your self-control in dealing with the bigoted buffoons who seem to have come out of the woodwork. Bravo, on you restraint!
December 16, 2010 at 8:51 pm, Archaeon said:
on “your”, not “you”…sheesh!
January 28, 2011 at 5:26 am, Joe Smetana said:
It’s too bad 95% of those leaving comments didn’t realize that before they went barking mad! Mad I tell ya’!
December 16, 2010 at 6:19 pm, Teelin said:
It is sad that some people on here seem to think that Idris Elba is being used to fill a quote. As a fan of both the comics and Elba's work, I think he's going to be a great Heimdall.
No matter what color he is, he has the right build, voice, and demeanor for the character.
December 17, 2010 at 6:19 pm, God of Pandering said:
I'm a very visual person, and even though I was 'prepared' for this, when I saw the trailer, I was laughing so hard I could barely keep my eyes on the screen. He looked so amazingly ridiculous and out of place to me that I felt more sorry for him than anyone else. Many people are very visually oriented, and even if not 'racist', this is still going to look dumb as hell to them.
May as well have cast a hippo in a tutu.
December 16, 2010 at 6:40 pm, Unoimrite said:
I'd like to see a remake of The Color Purple with a White cast. After all, it's fiction.
January 28, 2011 at 4:35 am, Joe Smetana said:
I’d like you to shut up.
December 16, 2010 at 6:50 pm, Unoimrite said:
Anyone who believes this is ridicules should read this:
“Tangled: A Celebration of White Femininity”
http://tinyurl.com/29om8tt
December 16, 2010 at 7:08 pm, Mail said:
Morons. Idiots…to all of you who defend this move. Fiction or not. A great number of blacks would be offended if mlk was played by a member of a different race. The point is getting sticking to the material. That's the point. You left leaning fools as you do so well, twist it into something else. I am going to campaign for marvel to cast a white actor and reboot Blade. How does that sound?
December 18, 2010 at 2:46 pm, AC said:
Sounds like yer gonna have a heart-attack any second, “Mail” …
January 28, 2011 at 4:22 am, Joe Smetana said:
Awesome!
January 28, 2011 at 4:22 am, Joe Smetana said:
Sounds like an idea!
December 16, 2010 at 7:23 pm, Jae said:
This is way too funny!! fightin and bitchin over what color of skin A COMIC BOOK HERO SHOULD BE! I dont care if the guy is black,white,red,yellow long as the movie is made well LMAO for all i care it could be played by a women OF ANY COLOR! long as she was hot!!!!
January 28, 2011 at 5:25 am, Joe Smetana said:
Hotness! YES! Now this the best post of the bunch. Why aren’t we discussing hotness?????
December 16, 2010 at 7:32 pm, Cylon said:
people, especially fanboys, always bitch. the part that is the most annoying for me is not Elba being cast as Norse God, I don't care for this that much.
but it is retarded to say, that people who bitch about white men playing a black characters are OK, while people who bitch about black men playing white characters are tagged as racists. that's what is so wrong about this
I think that a lot of people these days are not able to realise how huge insult can calling someone a racist can be.
and people who say “it is just a comics book movie” are idiots. how somebody said it befor, Asatru is very widely still practised religion and Heimdal is one of their gods. Thats why it's offensive. and if the christians have the right to bitch about films or whatever every week, we should give these guys some room for their crying too
December 16, 2010 at 10:09 pm, jt said:
to have him in a comic book fighting frost giants to being with should be offensive should it not? its like let's have Jesus in marvel and have him fight with whiplash. yes. so if its okay to make him a comic book character, ys it offensive to have him black, in an adaptation of a comic book character LOOSELY based upon a norse god?
December 17, 2010 at 9:17 am, Divideandconquer said:
The only thing loose here is your mouth & your thought process.
December 16, 2010 at 7:38 pm, Dany Martel said:
Those protests are wrong on so many levels! They, put it simply, the same stoopid mental afraids MOFO who believe comics books transform the youth in ''Hippie-Serial-Killers''. Idris Elba is one of the Best Actor of is generation,That's That! If you don't like it, SHUT THE HELL UP and don't go see the Movie. Don't tell me how to live my live, you retard ! If you really belive your Racist Bullshit, your the one to be boycotted.Go home and cry your eyes' out about how OUR world don't understand you, your party and your fantasies evolutionist theory. YOUR AFFRAID BECAUSE YOUR IN MINORITY, AND THAT'S A REALLY BEAUTIFUL THING !!!
December 16, 2010 at 8:03 pm, Medmedina007 said:
Aren't the norse “gods” aliens in the film? So the whole thing doesn't even really matter. Protest thing in the comic aside,they are pretty butthurt about the whole thing.
December 16, 2010 at 10:18 pm, Divideandconquer said:
The point of the matter is we didn't write the stories of nordic mythology. Scandinavian people wrote them with their own people in mind. The eddas, sagas, & nordic folklore is a significant part of their personal history & heritage. Why haven't we read or heard of colored vikings? Because there wasn't any. Did Scandinavian people worship gods who weren't in their own likeness? No, they did not. As far as the comic is concerned, I have been a longtime fan of the series & I prefer the characters & storylines to remain the way they were originally created. Marvel just had to cast a black for that part? I'm sure there is many white actors they could have cast who would of done the job just fine. Everything in life is not multi-cultural & ethnically diverse.
January 28, 2011 at 4:50 am, Joe Smetana said:
We didn’t write the stories of the Marvel Universe either. As they say… when in Rome…
December 16, 2010 at 10:51 pm, Jbm421 said:
Very annoyed by this. So I'm guessing that the white wash on films like The Prince of Persia in which all of the “Persian” characters are played by Americans and Brits.
Or how about the fact that the all asian cast of The Last Airbender were dismissed for white actors and that the “evil” Fire Nation characters are all middle eastern. I get that there are some who take issue with Norse Gods being portrayed incorrectly for historical purposes, but this is based on a Marvel Comic. If anyone was going to be offened, how about being offened that a “historical figure” was being used for entertainment purposes. It's all a hipocracy. Let it go people, let it go!!!
December 17, 2010 at 1:18 am, blahblahblah said:
Wow this is so stupid! So the Council of Conservative Citizens is boycotting? OH NO… NOT THAT!! All seven of them will be picketing the movie around the country!
January 28, 2011 at 5:24 am, Joe Smetana said:
Never heard of ‘em.
December 17, 2010 at 8:11 am, Divideandconquer said:
Let's go back to days of old when white men wore black face to portray 'african americans' in the old black/white movies. Those films were fictional & 'loosely' based on life in those times. Yet, there was enough colored folk who felt offended by those movies because of the black face portrayal. However, it's politically correct now for a black man to be cast in a white man's role & whites have no reason to feel offended? Whether or not it's the comic or the 'mythological' norse god, Heimdall is WHITE. That's all.
December 19, 2010 at 2:57 pm, Davevfisher said:
There's a big difference. Marvel will not be applying white make up to the actor. He will retain his black skin.
The reason blacks were offended is because they were projected in derogatory roles in the films. If the white actors played the same roles without “blacking up ” it took on a different meaning. Check out Al Johnson with and without make up!!!
December 20, 2010 at 5:49 am, Divideandconquer said:
Blacks had their reasons for feeling offended by those films & the black face portrayal ceased. Whites feel offended by this film but according to your side, that doesn't matter or account for anything? Blacks are quick to preach about 'equal rights' until it's no longer about them anymore.
January 28, 2011 at 5:10 am, Joe Smetana said:
Word. It’s a power struggle, man! Many individuals will say anything to get into the driver’s seat. It’s all about power.
January 28, 2011 at 5:10 am, Joe Smetana said:
Word. It’s a power struggle, man! Many individuals will say anything to get into the driver’s seat. It’s all about power.
December 17, 2010 at 4:31 pm, Bandersnatch said:
Yes, well, Heimdall was also born of nine different mothers (& Odin) so maybe one of them had svartalf blood…
More seriously, in the Thor comic book mythology, the Norse gods were reborn as mortals, and this is just an update. “Bright” could refer to mind & perception as well as skin tone.
(or much less seriously, they might have taken the ram-toothed/yellow-toothed/gold-toothed too much to heart. No. Elba doesn't have any gold in his teeth!
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December 17, 2010 at 6:38 pm, Étienne Gagné said:
I can live with Marvel criticizing the Tea Party but to hire a black actor to play Thor, a comic book caracter based on a norse god… it's not racist at all to say WTF! Thor nevered appeared as a black character in the comics, and that should be a sufficient reason to NEVER EVER use a black actor in a movie… Moreover, the Norse culture was in scandinavia, where no black people ever lived at that time. Is multiculturalism ideology so perverted that we have to change a whole culture's mythology to make sure they have a black guy as a God too? Sorry but here I'm standing with the white supremacist: Thor has always been white in mythology as in the comic serie, there is NO reason whatsoever to have a black actor in the movie. I'm sure the black community would feel the same if we hired Jim Carey to play Malcom X in a movie…
December 18, 2010 at 12:06 am, Bcjohnson1988 said:
Shut the fuck up.
December 18, 2010 at 1:59 pm, AC said:
THOR is played by a white actor, jackass – do the basic research before you talk …ahhh, but that implies thought where fear is clearly the only model you've got – pathetic.
I'll see this film 3 times …one for me and twice for two of you racist fools who won't see it.
January 28, 2011 at 4:17 am, Joe Smetana said:
Cluck Cluck Cluck! RACIST! RACIST! RACIST! Cluck Cluck Cluck!
February 20, 2011 at 10:56 pm, FailMaster said:
Shut the fuck up, seriously. You’re not clever, intelligent or even remotely funny. I’m not calling you a racist, I’m calling you a fucking moron.
December 18, 2010 at 4:57 pm, mrcoldheart said:
Read the whole article idiot.
The nine people that voted you up have an even lower IQ.
December 18, 2010 at 7:28 pm, Tony said:
Your inability to read is perfectly paired with the lack of intellect in your argument. How often has Jesus been played by people with clearly European features or Cleopatra or Pocahontas, or that matter? And these characters, unlike your Norse Gods, were real people!
This has nothing do with being politically correct. It is about a smart director allowing the best actor to win the role. And it is not unprecidented for Branagh. When he was directing “Much A Do About Nothing” and he had the opportunity to cast Denzel Washington as the Italian prince, Don Pedro, he jumped at it. If you have the chance to cast an actor like Washington in a role, you do it despite what that role is. You just have to trust your audience is smart enough to bridge the mental gap. The writer of this comment and the 9 people who liked it prove that they obviously are not!
December 19, 2010 at 4:51 pm, disqusted said:
First if all, the black character is actually the part of Hiemdul, not the title role. Second of all, as a fan of Norse mythology (and an American of Norwegian descent) I understood the arguement…at first. The comic book characters of the Norse Gods are far removed from the “real” mythology. They are super powered cosmic beings, who happened to encounter vikings at therefore earn their worship. The idea that one is black is not jarring, at least no so much as the fact that aliens look like humans of any shade.
Finally, and most importantly, Cleopatra was white. Macedonian Greek to be exact. Her sister was half Egyptian, so she may have been also, but that means any brunette with a tan would be accurate, historically. She certainly didn't look like Oprah.
January 28, 2011 at 4:15 am, Joe Smetana said:
I’m sorry. Is the black actor playing the norse god.. Denzel? Are you bridging a mental gap or taking a mental crap?
C’mon, seriously. Is the actor playing the black norse god an actor like Denzel Washington? Seriously!
February 20, 2011 at 10:54 pm, FailMaster said:
The actor playing Heimdall is actually very, very good. Watch him on the Wire. Denzel Washington is a veteran actor at this point, but even he started out somewhere. Just because Idris isn’t as well known as Denzel doesn’t mean he isn’t as capable as him.
You’re just being an idiot now.
December 20, 2010 at 4:55 pm, Trillian said:
so the fact that you're siding with white supremicists doesn't make you re-think your position? I would never want to be on the same side of an argument as these racists. It is a character in a movie. A superhero with magical powers from outerspace and you are arguing the authenticity? Remove the bunch your panties are in.
December 22, 2010 at 2:01 am, poopygoop said:
First off, Thor is played by Chris Hemsworth (he played Capt. Kirk's daddy in Star Trek) all you had to do is read what role Idris Elba plays in the movie. //Sheesh// it's people like you who give the rest of us (the people who can read and comprehend what we're reading) cause for a case of the giggles. Whilst I was at it you pathetically silly little git you really need to either reread what you post orrrr use spell check 'cause the last time I knew never never ended with ed – then again you can use the well I'm colored blind excuse right? As far as the hoopla is concerned, it's just a freaking movie.
Oh and you should probably stop with the generalizing “I'm sure the black community would feel the same if we hired Jim Carey to play Malcom X in a movie.” I can assure you that there are a slew of black people who could care less about MLK or MX orrr who could, would or should play him/them.
I'm giving you a C- for your post and a big PFFT for your delivery.
January 28, 2011 at 4:18 am, Joe Smetana said:
Agreed!
January 28, 2011 at 4:11 am, Joe Smetana said:
Whoa! Take it easy with the common sense. You might offend those who prefer ignorance as a way of life. I know Spike Lee would crap his pants if a movie involving norse gods didn’t have a black man in their midst! Unacceptable!
May 09, 2011 at 7:51 pm, Josh2dj said:
You are an idiot really. They changed a character, NOT Thor. WHO CARES IF THEY CHANGE THE COLOR OF ONE PERSONS SKIN!? I wouldnt care if they made a movie about MLK and one of the people was a white person….I think peoplewoudl be upest if MLK was white, but not one of his supporters…jeez i wish everyone could get a long without all the racism
December 17, 2010 at 7:18 pm, relax said:
Well i seem to remember a bunch of White Actors playing, indians, north Africans, etc. It does not seem like such a big deal. I doubt that anyone but extremist would complain if a white person played an African diety. It would be different if they 'played' a real character like Malcolm X. But until you SEE your norse God, its pretty foul to assume you know what color they are. Should not a God be beyond such human concerns as color? And would a God not be able to be whatever color he or she wanted. Whatever gender. Its the Humans that worship them that give them form, and make it mythology.
December 17, 2010 at 8:08 pm, Tdhjudah62 said:
The ONLY way to put an end to this, is to tell the FULL TRUTH about history & go back into what ur 'Nationality' is (not skin-color) so theres no confusion. The European people r KNOWN to be culture-thieves & making Indigenous dieties in their image & likeness; so now my people (who falsely call themselves “black”) who dont have a knowledge of their treu culture, are just mimicking the European…thats all. Anyhow, i understand y sum wouldnt like the role, eventho we can jus say “its just a movie” on a 'lighter” note. Peace
December 17, 2010 at 9:22 pm, SassyStephB said:
To be frank.. who gives a flying ( insert expletive here)
it's called creative license. Broadway does it all the time. If he portrayed the role best in auditions then he's the best choice. So, when the movie is released just pretend that he's white, and you'll be fine.
Awesome!
January 28, 2011 at 5:24 am, Joe Smetana said:
Agreed!
December 17, 2010 at 9:47 pm, Jim Treacher said:
Way to paint Tea Partiers as racists! Well, for what it's worth, I consider myself a Tea Party sympathizer and I'm fine with Idris Elba playing a Norse god. Or anyone else he wants to play, for that matter. He's terrific. (See: BBC's “Luther.”)
December 17, 2010 at 11:26 pm, SassyStephB said:
actually darling,
it's not hard to paint the tea party as racist. they do a pretty god job on their own. ( intentionally or not)
December 18, 2010 at 2:11 am, Paul_in_NJ said:
That's a mighty big brush you're slinging tar with, SassyStephB. I'm offended by your stereotyping and bigotry.
December 25, 2010 at 6:44 am, Viktor Gallo said:
You want racists, SissySteph? Check it:
http://www.theamericanresistan…
December 17, 2010 at 9:51 pm, Jim Treacher said:
By the way, I'm also fine with a white actor playing, say, a West African god. If you're not, why not?
December 17, 2010 at 11:46 pm, AXEGOD said:
Paganism is not originaly a white supremist religion even tho the gods in it were white…just neo nazi and shit try to adopt it which i think is shit…but i aggree he should not play thor just cause.
December 18, 2010 at 12:09 am, Bcjohnson1988 said:
This comment thread is absolutely packed with morons. All of you pretending that this actually offends you and has anything to do with your interests, you all sound like a bunch of moronic rednecks who just stumbled out of your trailers to grab another six-pack.
January 28, 2011 at 4:34 am, Joe Smetana said:
I have bad news for you…. Sit down… Here’s the truth…. ALL comment threads are packed with morons, REGARDLESS of the subject matter! Because anonymity allows people to rant and complain and smear without the nasty consequences that would normally crop up when expressing yourself face to face with a real person. Comment threads not only attract morons – THEY CREATE THEM!
December 18, 2010 at 1:45 am, Guest123 said:
Racism is the pits.
January 28, 2011 at 5:08 am, Joe Smetana said:
You said it!
January 28, 2011 at 5:08 am, Joe Smetana said:
You said it!
December 18, 2010 at 2:04 am, guest said:
But it's ok for white actors to play OTHELLO? give me a break people!
Idris is an incredible actor and the even the creators of the comics wanted him cast as Heimdall!
January 28, 2011 at 4:49 am, Joe Smetana said:
No. Othello MUST be played by a black man. I can’t stand to watch it, otherwise!
December 18, 2010 at 2:10 am, Paul_in_NJ said:
If you're wondering how some people can't
Cut movies a little slack,
Just repeat to yourself “It's just a flick,
they should really just relax…”
December 18, 2010 at 2:13 am, Paul_in_NJ said:
I can only imagine the absolute furor that will ensue in the next Superman movie when the role of Mister Mxyzptlk goes to [redacted].
December 18, 2010 at 3:23 am, Unoimrite said:
What you need to understand is that blacks are the true White supremacists. They see everything White as superior which is why they demand to go to White schools and live in White neighborhoods. What's the first thing a black man does when he has the means? Leave the 'hood. Even blacks don't want to live with blacks.
If blacks had any creativity, imagination, or initiative, they could create their own comic books with their own black super heroes. Instead, they expect White people to create black comic characters. Then they complain that White folk are exploiting them and profiting from them.
Everywhere in the world, the black condition is the same. Where Africans are, Africa is. Blacks are a genetic dead end.
December 19, 2010 at 3:10 pm, Davevfisher said:
Back in '76 when I was reading Marvel comics I did exactly what you said. I created a black super hero as the only one I nkew of was Luke Cage Powerman. I drew a few pictures and created a comic. Aged 13 I gave it to my Dad who was going to NY and told him to give it to Stan lee …..When I was 21 my Dad returned and said Marvel was not interested… By then the Blade I invented in '77 was published in Comics and now the big screen. I still have the original comic penned by me which could be tested for authenticity. But why bother. Look at the problems a “black woman” had proving she wrote Terminator and “The Matrix”…
So you see we do create things which are constantly not acknowledged as belonging to anyone other than a white person.
The “Real McCoy” .
Black Betty Leadbelly
The light bulb Lewis Lattimer
I could go on……
January 28, 2011 at 5:23 am, Joe Smetana said:
However, you managed to create your very own BS. Bravo. You are now acknowledge as the BS king. Be proud!
December 18, 2010 at 10:59 am, Jerry M. Chaney II said:
Yes, well Etienne,
There was no reason to make Thor an alien, but they did that too for awhile in Marvel comics. Where was the outrage then? The Thor comic books are high heroic fantasy, not Mythology nor Religion. I don't believe sacrilege was intended by Marvel nor the Director.
One might as well boycott Santa Claus because of the way that Odin has been reduce to a jolly old elf and Saint Nicolaos and Old Nic (Satan).
You know, I'm not offended by Christian Privilege when I'm told “merry Christmas” instead of Happy Holly-days because I take it in the spirit in which it is intended.
They're making a frickin' movie of a character inspired by Thor – God. of. Thunder! That's cool!
Adieu, Adéesse, & Blest be,
The Kentucky Pagan Forum Moderator
Lucien D'Cœur
a.k.a. Jerry M. Chaney II
“There is no greater Power than Knowledge;
There is no greater Knowledge than Love;
& no greater Love than the Empowerment of another.”
December 18, 2010 at 1:24 pm, Stargater said:
Well, haven't any of you seen Stargate SG-1? If you have, then you know that the Asgard are a bunch of small grey and highly advanced aliens. Thor was a rather cool, if a bit humorless guy/girl actually.
…and if you mix white and black, you get something like grey, right?
…and they are all gods, so no one really knows all about them?
So this movie “Thor”, is just a version of the real deal – the one with little grey aliens, that is.
December 18, 2010 at 8:57 pm, KiminAustin said:
First of all, as a lot of you are commenting, MLK was a real person who lived less than 100 years ago. We have pictures and video of him, and he was the leader of the minority rights movement. How can you equate MLK to a mythological person that no one has any real facts about?! Secondly, almost every movie where Cleopatra is portrayed a very white actress is playing her (Angelina Jolie in the one coming out soon, Elizabeth Taylor, etc.). Even the Prince of PERSIA was played by Jake Gyllenhaal. Pocahantas is always played by a white actress, most movies portraying Jesus are cast with a white actor, when it even says in the bible where he was from and what color his skin was. This group has never protested any of those other movies even though the description of their group and the word Conservative within it implies that they would want everything straight and narrow and based on facts. They only want to protest the movie because the actor is black. Ever heard of the Human Genome Project? I bet this black actor has more genetic ties to the people that believed in this mythology more than some of you. Just because you can trace your heritage back a few centuries doesn't mean you can trace it all the way back yourself, but science can, so it's about time people stopped taking skin color (something produced by melanin in the skin to adapt with certain climates OVER TIME) so seriously as a barrier. I'm a mix of a lot of races, including Black, and I don't jump up and yell discrimination and racism at everything, and most people I know don't either. That is another horrible stereotype that obviously a lot of you feed into. This is a mythological person, nothing that we can prove, and is not the same as a Black person playing a White President or some of the proposterous claims I've read on here. I would understand fully if someone was upset if a black person was cast as a REAL white person that we can prove was white. This hate for the movie is the same as if Superman was cast by a black person: Superman isn't real. And if you are offended because you think religiously that these Norse Gods really existed and this one is played by a black man, then I guess I'll have to start protesting every time you make a movie with a blonde white man with blue eyes playing Jesus.
December 19, 2010 at 2:38 am, Leathershod said:
Why didnt they just make Frey the black one? He's the one with the huge cock. He was a Vanir unlike the Aesir (Thor, Odin, Heimdall) which were “historically” white.
Everybody wins.
Aaaand for everyone else, read carefully and maybe do a little research, because I just read this entire page and 70% of you have all your facts wrong. BLACK GUY TO PLAY HEIMDALL, NOT THOR, NORSE IS A REAL RELIGION, NOT JUST A COMIC.
Now, Im not on anyone's side here, but me and a whole mess of people would be offended if Jim Carey played MLK, and he's just a human that people strongly believe in. So, why is it not supposed to offensive if you cast a GOD that people strongly believe to be white, as a black guy. This isnt some low budget B-movie out of Loserville, 'Merika. This is big money, big viewer, shit. I understand America is land of the great melting pot and everybody deserves to have their interpretation of the world expressed, but this is a matter of simple authenticity.
Think about a female, Chinese, Jesus. Just think about that for a sec. Could be an interesting flick, no? Would you expect you expect a die-hard Christian to appreciate it? Of course not. Its almost the same thing if you have any knowledge of any other religion than your own. Buddha is not skinny, Moses is not a pirate, Heimdall is not black.
It all comes down to what demographic Disney and/or Marvel whats to appease. I realize theyre Christian based format but theyre are alot of pagans and Norse followers without even counting white supremacists, out there than you think. Disney can do whatever the hell they want, they just have to accept the consequences of offending certain groups. If they dont give a shit, then obviously their demographic is not aimed towards anyone with any believe or knowledge on what the film is based around. Its like if The Passion of Christ was played by Arnold Schwarzenegger. Its not that he's not the greatest actor in the world, and could totally pull it off, but theres something automatically and unfortunately superficially wrong about it.
Now, please. Before you respond to this, stop, go back to the top and read this again. Repeat this one more time (thats reading it 3 times) then feel free to criticize all you like. Because I probably wont even check this comment ever again. Enjoy!
January 28, 2011 at 5:07 am, Joe Smetana said:
Thanks for posting. My brain is now the size of a small raisin.
December 19, 2010 at 8:48 pm, Shane no AKA said:
I read the story, and then I read the comments. All I can say is wow. People debating a comic book movie for changing shit. All of a sudden the norse mythology is a real relgion?! Heimdal is equalivant to Martin Luther King…??
It's a comic book movie. These are characters in a comic book! This is a movie where actors play characters. It's made for entertainment.
And now it's a HUGE racially charged debate and someone said Norse Mythology is a real relgion?
This is why we can't have nice things
December 20, 2010 at 2:14 pm, Shot Back said:
Jet LI starring as Captain America would be awesome too, but completely inaccurate.
December 20, 2010 at 6:25 pm, Anti-Islam Right Takes On Batman, DC Comics | Death and Taxes said:
[...] wasn’t saying black people can’t be heroes, period. They simply don’t want to see Idris Elba in a specific [...]
December 21, 2010 at 12:32 am, Divideandconquer said:
Blacks are quick to preach about 'equal rights' until it's no longer about them anymore.
January 28, 2011 at 5:06 am, Joe Smetana said:
Word.
December 21, 2010 at 2:14 am, Chad Mcanna said:
Why weren't all these pigmently-correct people up in arms when white people were constantly being cast as Jesus Christ?
December 21, 2010 at 10:22 am, AmALion said:
It's about respect for the Norse religion, people, culture, ect. You anti-White Zoglings better wake up if you have any decency. Go ahead and research “jewish supremacy” yourself, there's a reason for this filth and it's not some negro actors doing.
December 21, 2010 at 1:50 pm, Haley Barbour Loves White Supremacy, Hates New ‘Thor’ Movie | Death and Taxes said:
[...] Council of Conservative Citizens—the CCC instead of the KKK—have latched on to the “Thor” movie boycott like a disgusting, racist [...]
December 22, 2010 at 11:42 am, Spaced Guy said:
Nobody needs to do anything to undermine the Tea Party movement. They do it to themselves, day after day.
December 22, 2010 at 6:04 pm, Abailou said:
I think it is HILARIOUS that Europeans, who are known as world conquerers, colonizers and usurpers, are complaining about a so-called white mythical charecter being black in a movie! UUUUhhhh, yall do know that most ancient European Gods were taken from Egyptians or some other aboriginal people that occupied the areas they conquered or usurped.
The ONLY CULTURE OR WAY OF LIFE THAT WAS STARTED BY EUROPEANS WAS……THE CAVE MAN!!!! Everything else was taken from original people!
December 25, 2010 at 6:31 am, Viktor Gallo said:
Were you born stupid or do you just practice?
December 22, 2010 at 10:19 pm, Oneman said:
I have just one question: Can a white male play as Martin Luther King Jr. in a movie???
NO!!!!!!!! There would be outrages, revolts, riots and revolutions! Blacks would not allow it!
December 22, 2010 at 10:22 pm, Oneman said:
Or better said, can a white male play a role as a Zulu god?
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December 25, 2010 at 6:39 am, Viktor Gallo said:
Of course not. Cities would burn.
December 23, 2010 at 12:15 am, 4dgrafikfx said:
The White Europeans are putting together a movie in which martin luther king is played by a white guy. I think larry the cable guy is a prospect. Also malcom x will be played by rosie o'donnel (I think). There is already a huge reserve to see the show and a sequel in plan. The sequel will be about mohamed and is played by a gay rabbi from nyc.
December 23, 2010 at 5:49 pm, sjm752003 said:
How many times have we, as black people, HAD to suspend disbelief when people who really existed (Egyptians, etc.,) have been whitewashed? Since we don't control media/propaganda (or anything else), we've watched and protested as our music (and royalties), speech, and social advocacy have been “appropriated” (a nice way of saying 'stolen') by Euro-Americans and nearly everyone else. And these Klowns have the nerve to beef about a myth?
But have Brad Pitt and Colin Farrell cast as Greeks (two NORTHERN Europeans from Missouri and IRELAND) who bleached their hair BLOND for the roles?
And Jake Gyllenhall as the Prince of Persia?
January 28, 2011 at 5:06 am, Joe Smetana said:
“Since we don’t control media/propaganda (or anything else), we’ve watched and protested as our music (and royalties), speech, and social advocacy have been “appropriated” (a nice way of saying ‘stolen’) by Euro-Americans and nearly everyone else.”
And whose fault is that? BTW, thanks for grouping all Euro-Americans together. I’m sure that’s not bigoted, prejudiced, and racist. Thanks being a great ambassador for blacks everywhere. Spreading the seeds of ignorance on the other side of the racial divide is definitely the best way to right what you perceive as historical wrongs.
December 24, 2010 at 12:26 am, J3161usa said:
It just goes to show you that no matter how much history we learn, some people never will. This is why conservatives always repeat the same mistakes over and over again. A cartoon character is being used to insight fear……These are the same type of whites who cannot fathom a shakespearian character being black. This is stupid beyond belief, but that's just me. Imagine the so-called great european superior white man can't find it in his mind to rise above such stupidity. Maybe this is just a pretext of whats to come….politics and racism
December 25, 2010 at 6:38 am, Viktor Gallo said:
The writer of this bilge called Heimdall, the character in question, Norse:
Norse?
1. Of or relating to medieval Scandinavia or its peoples, languages, or cultures.
2. Of or relating to Norway or its people, language, or culture.
3. Of, relating to, or being the branch of the North Germanic languages that includes Norwegian, Icelandic, and Faroese.
Where does it say black African?
December 28, 2010 at 1:18 pm, KEITH said:
They didn't have a problem with making the Egyptians,Pharoah, Cleopatra,Moses ect.
white in the 10 commandments movie. And what's really crazy them CRACKER don't have a problem with when the Pope got Michealanglo to change the image of JESUS
from black to white so Europe would accept Christianity and so those CRAZY CRACKERS could start the Trans-atlantic Slave trade. Now they know how Blacks in this country feel, when they try to whiten Black History. BLACK POWER! HOTEP!
December 28, 2010 at 1:43 pm, Viktor Gallo said:
Your piss warm arguments are straw men, easily taken down, but there's not enough time or room here. Suffice it to say 1] you're fulla shit NEGRO 2] black history is taking place right now–in Haiti.
January 22, 2011 at 12:05 am, fj said:
As a scandinavian I’m a little offended by this. Not because a black man is cast as Heimdal, but because the whole consept of the Thor comics/movie is ruining the very image of norse mythology and culture.
January 29, 2011 at 5:17 pm, Andrew Ward said:
The problem is Heimdall is a real God to the followers of Asatru,its It’s just mythology,then jesus and mohammed are myths too,but that would never be said the fallout would be too great..
February 01, 2011 at 11:14 pm, History_nerd said:
I just think lots of people are being ridicolous! Marvel Norse gods are ‘inspired’ by actual Norse mythology, but that doesn’t mean that whatever is said on the Edda is law for any guy who starts writing a Thor comic book! That ‘whitest of the gods’ stuff would mean something if they were making a movie based on the not-Marvel mythology, but they’re not. And don’t forget about the Japanese actor who plays Hogun, the ‘only character whos’ not an Aesir’ or whatever; what scandal is going on about him?
I say let’s wait to see the movie and see if he’s really good at playing his part. And please, let the whole skin colour crap in your brain!
February 17, 2011 at 12:46 am, Rob Holman said:
Unlike Thor, Jesus was real??! That’s a stretch only a Christian could make. I postit that it is the other way around. Prove me wrong.
I am also Pagan, and while I don’t feel very strongly about the casting decision personally, (it is based on the Comic, not the real religion) I do think it is a bit silly. The “white female Jesus” comparison is apt.
February 22, 2011 at 4:53 pm, Brian Bagnall said:
Can’t help but notice that the artist portrays the protesters as yokels wearing glasses for the most part. Weird. Why the glasses motif? Not cool looking hip sunglasses either, but huge out of date glasses. Looks like subtle propaganda to me.
February 25, 2011 at 9:54 pm, Douglas Firth said:
Until reading this article and comments, I didn’t even realize that Marvel was now a Disney property. Under that banner, this “progressive” casting shouldn’t even raise eyebrows. If you don’t get what I mean, well, that’s a loooong discussion. Here’s a starting point: Walt Disney for several years prior to his death was the only Gentile major motion picture producer in America. Shortly after his death, the company was sold by his heirs and the Michael Eisner era began. What does that have to do with anything? Go find out.
April 06, 2011 at 11:27 am, Missdonthate said:
Let’s be honest no one cares of a bunch of stupid pissed of racists dont attend a film. No major film company or any major company is going to change for racists. No one wants that bad press. So let them be pissed and let them boycott. No one gives a dam.
May 09, 2011 at 10:20 pm, BishopGoliath said:
Heimdell, and the other Asgardians in the Marvel Comic, aren’t from Europe…or even Earth. They are from Asgard hence the name Asgardian! They shouldn’t even have to be played by humans let alone humans of a specific racial group.
May 18, 2011 at 8:15 pm, Norm said:
Might I suggest this as a compromise: think of the movie version of Heimdall as Ultimate Heimdall just as the movie version of Nick Fury is Ultimate Nick Fury.
May 24, 2011 at 7:07 pm, Bri said:
Now they know how Asian-Americans feel.
May 26, 2011 at 6:12 am, Steven Markley said:
I’m finding all the white whining very amusing. =D
Idris was brilliant in the role. I’m whiter than probably any of you motherfuckers, and while not full Asatru I give respect to the Norse gods. Yet I wear a black Heimdall proudly as my icon. I guess I must be confused, or one of those self-hating commie liberals, or something.
After decades of people of African descent having to tolerate whitewashed Egyptians, I think we Caucasoids can countenance a single black alien-passing-as-Norse-god. Right? =)
June 04, 2011 at 10:01 pm, Norm said:
Looks like the boycott idea didn’t really catch on, did it?
What I don’t get is why some people are complaining that Heimdall because he’s a Norse god but they don’t seem to have any problem with Nick Fury being played by Samuel L. Jackson (unless he’s too intimidating for them) or the Norse gods using a large teleportation machine rather than using mystic powers to travel around.
June 23, 2011 at 4:26 pm, Player 2 said:
I was surprised no one else brought up Sam Jackson as Fury. Or Jessica Alba as the Invisible Girl. Lando Calrissian as Harvey Dent. Halle Berry as Catwoman. D.B. Sweeney as Terry Fitzgerald in Spawn. Michael Clarke Duncan as the Kingpin. And a bunch more I’m sure I’ve missed. What’s next? Let’s downward spiral into complaining Wolverine being played by someone 6′ tall? Eddie Brock/Venom being Topher Grace? Ben Affleck?
It’s artistic license and we didn’t give a shit any other time as long as they did a good job. Sam Jackson? Badass. Halle Berry? Catshit. Complain they did a bad job. The director chose who they felt were best suited for the job. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Some actors, regardless of creed have a much more imposing presence than others, so use them. Who cares?
June 22, 2011 at 8:55 pm, Player 2 said:
wow. all this over a comic book movie? lawl. you kids funny. if only you kids would spend this amount of energy amounting to something. go play outside.
June 22, 2011 at 10:47 pm, Michael said:
“It seems that Marvel Studios believes that white people should have nothing that is unique to themselves.”
What is it that’s so “unique” amongst white people that the rest of us don’t have (besides the obvious pigmentation difference)? Has not the various myths and legends among African, Middle Eastern, and Asian cultures been tapped by white writers and filmmakers for decades for their own entertainment? Were it a religious issue, fair enough, protest to your heart’s content; but protesting it simply because you didn’t like the skin color of the actor portraying the character… Wow, really? Are there still so many people like this, who think with their color instead of their heads?
Why, for all our so-called “civilization” is such an archaic, puerile mindset still managing to survive despite its counterproductive and nonsensical goals? Do we really want our descendants living in a world where everyone is really cut off from everyone else? The Spartans tried that, as did other “xenophobic” cultures and races and you see where that got them. Extinct.
August 18, 2011 at 6:08 pm, wes said:
Japan is doing just fine, so is most of Asia.
Considering European countries are being conquered by non whites, cities at a time, white people are actually the antithesis of xenophobic.
This is just a matter of survival now.
December 16, 2010 at 3:52 pm, Racistassholehater said:
Which came first? You ran out of epithets or you ran out of meds?
December 16, 2010 at 5:29 pm, Archaeon said:
I'm amused you said all that…because JESUS was a Jew.
December 17, 2010 at 5:09 am, JoshuaStein said:
That was quite a mouthful, Mr, AndySuckC**k. You're a bigoted idiot. Go back to your trash roots.
December 16, 2010 at 6:26 pm, Swarley said:
That's what I find the most hilarious about when people preach about loving Jesus and being the great Christian.. Then turn around and bash Jews, and anyone else who doesn't think exactly like them.
What ever happened to love thy neighbor? Hypocrite's to the max.
January 28, 2011 at 4:58 am, Joe Smetana said:
I like your comment. Very nice. I think you make a good point!
January 28, 2011 at 5:00 am, Joe Smetana said:
Let’s not say ‘people’. Let’s stop grouping people together and point out the guilty party. I’m tired of hearing about all of these ‘people’ who do hypocritical things when really it’s just one or two individuals. Let’s name names.